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From: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
Cc: "Paul Walmsley" <paul@pwsan.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@sifive.com>,
	will.deacon@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	"Nick Kossifidis" <mick@ics.forth.gr>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: per-cpu thoughts
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 04:26:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <010001697026a740-ffe901ce-8e6a-445b-883f-068dd289b0a2-000000@email.amazonses.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.9999.1903110814130.11892@viisi.sifive.com>

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, Paul Walmsley wrote:

> There's been a discussion going on in a private thread about this that I
> unfortunately didn't add you to.  The discussion is still ongoing, but I
> think Christoph and myself and a few other folks have agreed that the
> preempt_disable/enable is not needed for the amoadd approach.  This is
> since the apparent intention of the preemption disable/enable is to ensure
> the correctness of the counter increment; however there is no risk of
> incorrectness in an amoadd sequence since the atomic add is locked across
> all of the cache coherency domain.  Christoph, would you disagree with
> that characterization?

No. As I said before all write operations have to happen from the local
cpu to a per cpu segment.

> There are a few outstanding points that we're trying to talk through, but
> it should be fine for an initial implementation to start with the
> amoadd-based approach.
>
> As far as the ARM LSE atomic implementation goes, I'm not an expert on
> those instructions. If those instructions are locked across all of the
> caches for the cores in the Linux system also, then they probably don't
> need the preempt_disable/enable either - assuming our collective
> understanding of the purpose of the preempt_disable/enable is correct.
>
> All this is, of course, assuming there is no secondary purpose to the
> preempt_disable/enable that we haven't managed to elicit yet.

The intention is that the write occurs to the local per cpu segment and
that any per cpu RMW activities (like this_cpu_inc()) appear to be
"atomic" in regards to other processes running on the same cpu.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-12  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-20 19:57 per-cpu thoughts Björn Töpel
2019-02-21 15:57 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-21 16:28 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-21 17:24   ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-21 17:49     ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-21 19:40       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-02-22 15:04         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 15:36           ` Nick Kossifidis
2019-02-22 15:56             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 19:47               ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-22 19:56                 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 12:20                   ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-28 17:58                     ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 18:42                       ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-28 19:09                         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 20:21                           ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-01  1:13                             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-08  7:17                   ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 13:22                     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-03-11 14:48                       ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 14:56                         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 15:05                           ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 15:26                             ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-11 16:48                               ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 18:39                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 11:23                                   ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-12 16:01                                     ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 17:34                                       ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-12  4:26                               ` Christopher Lameter [this message]
2019-03-12 14:21                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 17:42                                   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-12 17:59                                     ` Gary Guo
2019-03-13 18:58                                       ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-13 20:15                                     ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-22 14:51                               ` Nick Kossifidis
2019-03-22 17:57                                 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 15:51                             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 16:35                               ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-12  4:22                                 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 19:48             ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-22 20:53               ` Nick Kossifidis

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