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From: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
	daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/20] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:11:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <414b4943-265d-3735-c115-d54469018d8c@kapsi.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48f5bbac-3955-c227-dbe1-d987b4ec5bd0@gmail.com>



On 10/22/20 7:20 AM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 20.10.2020 12:18, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>> I'm asking this question because right now there is only one potential
>>> client for this IOCTL, the VIC. If other clients aren't supposed to be a
>>> part of the DRM driver, like for example NVDEC which probably should be
>>> a V4L driver, then DRM driver will have only a single VIC and in this
>>> case we shouldn't need this IOCTL because DRM and V4L should use generic
>>> dmabuf API for importing and exporting buffers.
>>
>> This IOCTL is required for GR2D/GR3D too, as they need to access memory
>> as well. This is a different step from import/export -- first you import
>> or allocate your memory so you have a GEM handle, then you map it to the
>> channel, which does the IOMMU mapping (if there is an IOMMU).
>>
> 
> This doesn't answer my question. I don't have a full picture and for now
> will remain dubious about this IOCTL, but it should be fine to have it
> in a form of WIP patches (maybe staging feature) until userspace code
> and hardware specs will become available.
> 
> Some more comments:
> 
> 1. Older Tegra SoCs do not have restrictions which do not allow to group
> IOMMU as wished by kernel driver. It's fine to have one static mapping
> per-GEM that can be accessed by all DRM devices, that's why CHANNEL_MAP
> is questionable.

Sure, on older Tegras this is not strictly necessary because the 
firewall can check pointers. It's not related to IOMMU grouping.

> 
> 2. IIUC, the mappings need to be done per-device group/stream and not
> per-channel_ctx. It looks like nothing stops channel contexts to guess
> mapping addresses of the other context, isn't it?
> 
> I'm suggesting that each GEM should have a per-device mapping and the
> new IOCTL should create these GEM-mappings, instead of the channel_ctx
> mappings.

In the absence of context isolation, this is correct. But with context 
isolation (which is next on my upstream todo-list), on supported chips 
(T186+), we can map to individual contexts, which are associated with 
channel_ctx's.

Without context isolation, this IOCTL just maps to the underlying 
engine. The list of mappings can also be used by the firewall later - as 
mentioned, just the relocs would be enough for that, but I think there's 
a good orthogonality in CHANNEL_MAP describing memory regions accessible 
by the engine, and relocations just doing relocations.

> 
> 3. We shouldn't need channel contexts at all, a single "DRM file"
> context should be enough to have.

Yeah, maybe we could just have one "inline" channel context in the DRM 
file, that's just initialized by the CHANNEL_OPEN IOCTL.

> 
> 4. The new UAPI need to be separated into several parts in the next
> revision, one patch for each new feature.

I'll try to split up where possible.

> 
> The first patches should be the ones that are relevant to the existing
> userspace code, like support for the waits.

Can you elaborate what you mean by this?

> 
> Partial mappings should be a separate feature because it's a
> questionable feature that needs to be proved by a real userspace first.
> Maybe it would be even better to drop it for the starter, to ease reviewing.

Considering that the "no-op" support for it (map the whole buffer but 
just keep track of the starting offset) is only a couple of lines, I'd 
like to keep it in.

> 
> Waiting for fences on host1x should be a separate feature.

OK.

> 
> The syncfile support needs to be a separate feature as well because I
> don't see a use-case for it right now.

I'll separate it - the reason it's there is to avoid the overhead of the 
extra ID/threshold -> sync_file conversion IOCTL if you need it.

> 
> I'd like to see the DRM_SCHED and syncobj support. I can help you with
> it if it's out of yours scope for now.
> 

I already wrote some code for syncobj I can probably pull in. Regarding 
DRM_SCHED, help is accepted. However, we should keep using the hardware 
scheduler, and considering it's a bigger piece of work, let's not block 
this series on it.

Mikko

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-26  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-07 17:12 [PATCH v3 00/20] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] gpu: host1x: Use different lock classes for each client Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] gpu: host1x: Allow syncpoints without associated client Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] gpu: host1x: Show number of pending waiters in debugfs Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] gpu: host1x: Remove cancelled waiters immediately Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] gpu: host1x: Use HW-equivalent syncpoint expiration check Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] gpu: host1x: Cleanup and refcounting for syncpoints Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 22:23   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] gpu: host1x: Implement /dev/host1x device node Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] gpu: host1x: DMA fences and userspace fence creation Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 23:13   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-08 11:13   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] gpu: host1x: Add no-recovery mode Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] gpu: host1x: Add job release callback Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] gpu: host1x: Add support for syncpoint waits in CDMA pushbuffer Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] gpu: host1x: Reset max value when freeing a syncpoint Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] gpu: host1x: Reserve VBLANK syncpoints at initialization Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] drm/tegra: Boot VIC during runtime PM resume Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] drm/tegra: Set resv fields when importing/exporting GEMs Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] drm/tegra: Allocate per-engine channel in core code Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-08  3:42   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-19  2:21   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-19  8:13     ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-19 17:27       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-20  9:18         ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-22  4:20           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-26  9:11             ` Mikko Perttunen [this message]
2020-10-27 19:06               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-28  9:54                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-30 23:13                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 14:53                     ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-11-12 18:35                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-20 11:40         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-20 12:51           ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] drm/tegra: Add job firewall Mikko Perttunen

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