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From: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
	daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/20] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:18:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a7b4d4e-8d4a-416e-9789-45282b44bce5@kapsi.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f3267a9-37b4-2cff-08a2-2ca7c905ce01@gmail.com>

On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 19.10.2020 11:13, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>> On 10/19/20 5:21 AM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>> 07.10.2020 20:12, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>>> +int tegra_drm_ioctl_channel_map(struct drm_device *drm, void *data,
>>>> +                struct drm_file *file)
>>>> +{
>>>
>>> Hello, Mikko!
>>>
>>> Could you please tell what are the host1x clients that are going to be
>>> upstreamed and will need this IOCTL?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Dmitry!
>>
>> It is needed for any engine/job that wants to access memory, as this
>> IOCTL must be used to map memory for the engine. So all of them.
>>
>> Downstream doesn't have an equivalent IOCTL because it (currently) does
>> mapping at submit time, but that is suboptimal because
>>
>> - it requires doing relocations in the kernel which isn't required for
>> T186+
>> - it's a big performance penalty, due to which the downstream kernel has
>> the "deferred dma-buf unmapping" feature, where unmapping a dma_buf may
>> not immediately unmap it in case it's used later, so that the "mapping"
>> later is faster. A feature which we'd preferably get rid of.
>> - because of the above feature not being controlled by the user, it can
>> cause variance in submit times.
>>
>> On the other hand, we cannot (at least always) do the mapping at
>> allocation/import time, because
>>
>> - A single FD may have multiple channel_ctx's, and an allocation/import
>> may need to be used in any subset of them
>> - The import IOCTL is fixed and doesn't have the parameters we'd need to
>> do this at import time
>> - Overall it's more orthogonal to have GEM object acquirement in one
>> step and mapping in another.
>>
>> Maybe that's not quite what you asked, but it's some background anyway :)
> 
> I'm asking this question because right now there is only one potential
> client for this IOCTL, the VIC. If other clients aren't supposed to be a
> part of the DRM driver, like for example NVDEC which probably should be
> a V4L driver, then DRM driver will have only a single VIC and in this
> case we shouldn't need this IOCTL because DRM and V4L should use generic
> dmabuf API for importing and exporting buffers.

This IOCTL is required for GR2D/GR3D too, as they need to access memory 
as well. This is a different step from import/export -- first you import 
or allocate your memory so you have a GEM handle, then you map it to the 
channel, which does the IOMMU mapping (if there is an IOMMU).

> 
> I'm also not quite sure about whether the current model of the unified
> Tegra DRM driver is suitable for having the separated engines. Perhaps
> each separated engine should just have its own rendering node?
> 

Yeah, having separate nodes per engine might be better, e.g. so it's 
easier to do access control. I don't have a strong opinion on that though.

Mikko

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-07 17:12 [PATCH v3 00/20] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] gpu: host1x: Use different lock classes for each client Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] gpu: host1x: Allow syncpoints without associated client Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] gpu: host1x: Show number of pending waiters in debugfs Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] gpu: host1x: Remove cancelled waiters immediately Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] gpu: host1x: Use HW-equivalent syncpoint expiration check Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] gpu: host1x: Cleanup and refcounting for syncpoints Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 22:23   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] gpu: host1x: Implement /dev/host1x device node Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] gpu: host1x: DMA fences and userspace fence creation Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 23:13   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-08 11:13   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] gpu: host1x: Add no-recovery mode Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] gpu: host1x: Add job release callback Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] gpu: host1x: Add support for syncpoint waits in CDMA pushbuffer Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] gpu: host1x: Reset max value when freeing a syncpoint Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] gpu: host1x: Reserve VBLANK syncpoints at initialization Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] drm/tegra: Boot VIC during runtime PM resume Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] drm/tegra: Set resv fields when importing/exporting GEMs Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] drm/tegra: Allocate per-engine channel in core code Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-08  3:42   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-19  2:21   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-19  8:13     ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-19 17:27       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-20  9:18         ` Mikko Perttunen [this message]
2020-10-22  4:20           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-26  9:11             ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-27 19:06               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-28  9:54                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-30 23:13                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 14:53                     ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-11-12 18:35                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-20 11:40         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-20 12:51           ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-10-07 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] drm/tegra: Add job firewall Mikko Perttunen

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