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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext2 devel <ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] disk throughput
Date: 06 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1005063444.25686.18.camel@ixodes.goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011106105138Z16653-12382+40@humbolt.nl.linux.org>
In-Reply-To: <3BE647F4.AD576FF2@zip.com.au> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111050904000.23204-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> <3BE71131.59BA0CFC@zip.com.au>  <20011106105138Z16653-12382+40@humbolt.nl.linux.org>

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On Tue, 2001-11-06 at 02:52, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On November 5, 2001 11:22 pm, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > - The seek distance-versus-cost equation has changed.  Take a look
> >   at a graph of seek distance versus time.  Once you've decided to
> >   seek ten percent of the distance across the disk, a 90% seek only
> >   takes twice as long.
> 
> Do you have such a graph handy?

This is one I made a while ago while doing some measurements; its also
the one Andrew was referring to.  The drive is a very ordinary WD 40G
7200RPM drive.  You can clearly see the rotation time in the width of
the band, and the non-linear short-seek optimizations (the drive seems
to do something like dump a lot more current into the seek coil for
short seeks, probably knowing that it can't burn things out if its only
short).

There's an interesting detail you can't really see from this graph. 
Very short seeks (<< 1% disk size) are about 1ms.  That's not seeks
within a track; that's track-track seeks.  Since rotational latency is
up to 8.3ms on this drive, its often cheaper to seek to the next track
if the data is available there rather than wait for a rotation.

	J

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-06 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-05  2:13 disk throughput Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  3:20 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-11-05  3:31   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  3:32 ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  3:45   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  4:39     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  7:06     ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:14       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  7:26         ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:14       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  7:18         ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:18       ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  9:14         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  9:20           ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  5:54   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05  8:04     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 12:28       ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-05 14:23       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 22:41           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-05 22:53             ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 15:28               ` Constantin Loizides
2001-11-05 23:14             ` Dan Hollis
2001-11-06 10:52           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-06 16:17           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2001-11-08 15:24             ` Constantin Loizides
2001-11-08 16:46             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-11-09  6:08               ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  8:49               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-11-06 21:45           ` Stephen Tweedie
2001-11-05 20:16       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-05 20:28         ` m
2001-11-05 21:39           ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 22:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-05 23:36               ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 23:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  0:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  1:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  2:10                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  3:02                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  8:39                           ` Alan Cox
2001-11-06  8:37                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  8:48                               ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-06  3:49                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  4:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  4:21                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  5:01                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  5:31                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-06  5:48                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  7:34                                     ` Mike Castle
2001-11-06  7:10                                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-09 22:35                       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-06  1:28                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  9:16                     ` Wojtek Pilorz
2001-11-06  9:58                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08 12:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-06 21:48           ` Stephen Tweedie
2001-11-06 23:17             ` ext2/ialloc.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-11-07 19:34               ` [Ext2-devel] " Andreas Dilger
2001-11-07 20:02                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08  2:06                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 20:45                     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 22:16                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08 22:43                         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-08 23:08                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-09  6:15                             ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  6:56                               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-09  7:09                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  7:12                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-09  7:18                                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  9:45     ` [Ext2-devel] disk throughput Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  9:58       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  8:47 ` Jan Kara
2001-11-05  8:50   ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  9:01     ` Jan Kara
2001-11-05 12:23 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-05 22:39   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 23:41     ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-12  6:04 [Ext2-devel] " Yan, Noah

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