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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 12:20:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11b2a930-eae4-522c-4132-3f8a2da05666@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190802124613.GA11245@ziepe.ca>


On 2019/8/2 下午8:46, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
>>> synchronize_rcu.
>>
>> I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
>> concern.
> I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
> mm locks is a deadlock situation.


Maybe, that's why I suggest to use vhost_work_flush() which is much 
lightweight can can achieve the same function. It can guarantee all 
previous work has been processed after vhost_work_flush() return.


>
>> Then I try spinlock and mutex:
>>
>> 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance
>> improvement.
> I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement


But the whole series is to speed up vhost.


>
>> 2) SRCU: full memory barrier requires on srcu_read_lock(), which still leads
>> little performance improvement
>   
>> 3) mutex: a possible issue is need to wait for the page to be swapped in (is
>> this unacceptable ?), another issue is that we need hold vq lock during
>> range overlap check.
> I have a feeling that mmu notififers cannot safely become dependent on
> progress of swap without causing deadlock. You probably should avoid
> this.


Yes, so that's why I try to synchronize the critical region by myself.


>>> And, again, you can't re-invent a spinlock with open coding and get
>>> something better.
>> So the question is if waiting for swap is considered to be unsuitable for
>> MMU notifiers. If not, it would simplify codes. If not, we still need to
>> figure out a possible solution.
>>
>> Btw, I come up another idea, that is to disable preemption when vhost thread
>> need to access the memory. Then register preempt notifier and if vhost
>> thread is preempted, we're sure no one will access the memory and can do the
>> cleanup.
> I think you should use the spinlock so at least the code is obviously
> functionally correct and worry about designing some properly justified
> performance change after.
>
> Jason


Spinlock is correct but make the whole series meaningless consider it 
won't bring any performance improvement.

Thanks



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-05  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31  8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  5:03         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:50   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01  5:02         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04  0:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04  8:07                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:39                           ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-05  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:41                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:40                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:24                         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:20                 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-08-06 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07  6:49                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 18:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  8:06     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:18         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31  9:59   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05     ` Jason Wang

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