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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 09:46:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190802124613.GA11245@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42ead87b-1749-4c73-cbe4-29dbeb945041@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
> > synchronize_rcu.
> 
> 
> I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
> concern.

I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
mm locks is a deadlock situation.

> Then I try spinlock and mutex:
> 
> 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance
> improvement.

I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement

> 2) SRCU: full memory barrier requires on srcu_read_lock(), which still leads
> little performance improvement
 
> 3) mutex: a possible issue is need to wait for the page to be swapped in (is
> this unacceptable ?), another issue is that we need hold vq lock during
> range overlap check.

I have a feeling that mmu notififers cannot safely become dependent on
progress of swap without causing deadlock. You probably should avoid
this.

> > And, again, you can't re-invent a spinlock with open coding and get
> > something better.
> 
> So the question is if waiting for swap is considered to be unsuitable for
> MMU notifiers. If not, it would simplify codes. If not, we still need to
> figure out a possible solution.
> 
> Btw, I come up another idea, that is to disable preemption when vhost thread
> need to access the memory. Then register preempt notifier and if vhost
> thread is preempted, we're sure no one will access the memory and can do the
> cleanup.

I think you should use the spinlock so at least the code is obviously
functionally correct and worry about designing some properly justified
performance change after.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31  8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  5:03         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:50   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01  5:02         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-08-02 14:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04  0:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04  8:07                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:39                           ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-05  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:41                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:40                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:24                         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:20                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07  6:49                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 18:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  8:06     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:18         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31  9:59   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05     ` Jason Wang

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