From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:14:00 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190804001400.GA25543@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190803172944-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 05:36:13PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:24:18PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 10:27:21AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 09:46:13AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
> > > > > > synchronize_rcu.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
> > > > > concern.
> > > >
> > > > I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
> > > > mm locks is a deadlock situation.
> > > >
> > > > > Then I try spinlock and mutex:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance
> > > > > improvement.
> > > >
> > > > I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement
> > >
> > > The topic is whether we should revert
> > > commit 7f466032dc9 ("vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address")
> > >
> > > or keep it in. The only reason to keep it is performance.
> >
> > Yikes, I'm not sure you can ever win against copy_from_user using
> > mmu_notifiers?
>
> Ever since copy_from_user started playing with flags (for SMAP) and
> added speculation barriers there's a chance we can win by accessing
> memory through the kernel address.
You think copy_to_user will be more expensive than the minimum two
atomics required to synchronize with another thread?
> > Also, why can't this just permanently GUP the pages? In fact, where
> > does it put_page them anyhow? Worrying that 7f466 adds a get_user page
> > but does not add a put_page??
You didn't answer this.. Why not just use GUP?
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-04 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-31 8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 5:03 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:50 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01 5:02 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 9:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04 0:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-08-04 8:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-05 4:36 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 4:41 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:24 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:22 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 4:20 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07 6:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 4:33 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:21 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 18:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 8:06 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31 9:59 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05 ` Jason Wang
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