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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Kosaki Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: [v7 0/8] Reduce cross CPU IPI interference
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:29:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1328905759.25989.57.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOtvUMfZ-sfTd-WTV=+RcerTk6ejC2mmjrMGg8KkdMR=RaV+CA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 22:13 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> My current understanding is that if I have a real time task and wish it
> have a deterministic performance time, you should call mlockall() to lock
> the program data and text into physical memory so that  a  less often taken
> branch or access to a new data region will not result in a page fault.
> 
> You still have to worry about TLB misses on non hardware page table
> walk architecture, but at least everything is in the  page tables
> 
> If there is a better way to do this? I'm always happy to learn new
> ways to do things. :-) 

A rt application usually consists of a lot of non-rt parts and a usually
relatively small rt part. Using mlockall() pins the entire application
into memory, which while on the safe side is very often entirely too
much.

The alternative method is to only mlock the text and data used by the rt
part. You need to be aware of what text runs in your rt part anyway,
since you need to make sure it is in fact deterministic code.

One of the ways of achieving this is using a special linker section for
your vetted rt code and mlock()'ing only that text section.

On thread creation, provide a custom allocated (and mlock()'ed) stack
etc..

Basically, if you can't tell a-priory what code is part of your rt part,
you don't have an rt part ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-10 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-26 10:01 [v7 0/8] Reduce cross CPU IPI interference Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 1/8] smp: introduce a generic on_each_cpu_mask function Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-29 12:24   ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 21:52     ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-31  6:33       ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 2/8] arm: move arm over to generic on_each_cpu_mask Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 3/8] tile: move tile to use " Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 4/8] smp: add func to IPI cpus based on parameter func Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-27 23:57   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-29 12:04     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 5/8] slub: only IPI CPUs that have per cpu obj to flush Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:09   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 6/8] fs: only send IPI to invalidate LRU BH when needed Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:02 ` [v7 7/8] mm: only IPI CPUs to drain local pages if they exist Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:13   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-28  0:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-29 12:18     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 21:49       ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-31  6:32         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 14:59   ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-30 15:14     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 15:44       ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-26 10:02 ` [v7 8/8] mm: add vmstat counters for tracking PCP drains Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:19 ` [v7 0/8] Reduce cross CPU IPI interference Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-29  8:25   ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-01 17:04     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02  8:46       ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-02 15:41         ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-05 11:46           ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 18:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:13               ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 20:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-02-10 20:39                   ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 18:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:33             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 21:50             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-15 22:15               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-15 23:44                 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-21  1:34               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-01 18:27                 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-10 18:38           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:24             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 15:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 15:19                 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 21:51               ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-02 16:24         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 16:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 15:52             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 15:59               ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-09 18:11                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 16:26               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 18:32                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 17:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-01 17:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-02  9:42         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-01 18:40       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-01 20:06         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-01 20:13           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02  9:34             ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 15:34               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 16:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 17:01                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 17:23                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 17:51                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-05 12:16                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-05 16:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-09 15:22                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 16:05                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-09 18:22                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 23:41                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-10  1:39                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-14 13:18                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-21  0:02                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 17:25                     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-05 12:06                       ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-06 18:19                         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 15:37                           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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