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From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: Pat Suwalski <pat@suwalski.net>, Marc Giger <gigerstyle@gmx.ch>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:47:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030423174710.GA12744@citd.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1527920000.1051118798@flay>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:26:38AM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> >> I can only guess why. My buest guess is that not all
> >> sound-configurations are the same, on some systems the "defaults" could
> >> much to loud. (e.g. waking the neigbours when you restart you computer
> >> at night)
> > 
> > This is certainly the case. When I was packaging OSS for Xandros, our initial default was 50 percent. We eventualyl made it about 30, because even that was too loud on a laptop we were testing. There was little coherance between the various soundcards.
> > 
> > Waking the neighbors is the smallest problem. Blowing a speaker or makign the user deaf if quite another.
> > 
> > Yes, it's a distro problem. My Gentoo was build "-alsa" and so the alsa-sound init script does not 'go'. A simple rebuild will solve the problem.
> 
> I agree it's a disto problem to save and restore.
> 
> But I fail to understand how the distro can magically set a sensible 
> default, and yet we're unable to do so inside the kernel ? Setting it
> to something like 10 (or other very quiet setting) would seem reasonable.
> Then at least the poor user would have a clue what the problem was.
> 
> As to "There was little coherance between the various soundcards", yes
> this probably needs to be a per-soundcard setting for sensible defaults.
> I presume this is what the distros do?
> 
> Defaulting to silence seems user-malevolent ... 

The problem is (normaly) a "one time while installing"-problem. So don't
see the point. The "helper" that finds out the soundcard, should also do
a "find out the default volume to use"-round with the user.





Bis denn

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-23 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-23 16:23 [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 16:32 ` Marc Giger
2003-04-23 16:45 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 16:56   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:21     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-23 13:26       ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 17:26         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:45           ` Disconnect
2003-04-23 17:47           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer [this message]
2003-04-23 18:44             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 17:49           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 18:56           ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-23 22:17         ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-23 22:35           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24  2:19               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:29                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:34                   ` Ben Collins
2003-04-24  7:22                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:31                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:30                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-23 23:15             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 21:34     ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 21:36       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:14         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-23 22:18           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-23 22:55             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  0:11             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  0:43               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  1:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24  1:18                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  1:22                   ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24  2:11                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  2:40                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24  3:37                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  4:47                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-24 13:16                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24  7:14                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 13:38                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 13:49                             ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 14:08                               ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 14:34                                 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 15:04                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 15:23                                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-24 16:01                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 16:26                                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-24 21:22                                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:03                                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-25 10:30                                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 21:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 23:55                               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25  0:05                                 ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-25 10:41                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 10:04                                     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-25 17:44                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 17:59                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-26  0:31                                           ` Pat Suwalski
2003-04-24 22:51       ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-24  0:31 Ian Kumlien

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