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From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, mpatocka@redhat.com,
	bharrosh@panasas.com, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 9/9] block: Avoid deadlocks with bio allocation by stacking drivers
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:26:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120829162612.GA20312@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120829143913.GA5500@agk-dp.fab.redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 03:39:14PM +0100, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> It's also instructive to remember why the code is the way it is: it used
> to process bios for underlying devices immediately, but this sometimes
> meant too much recursive stack growth.  If a per-device rescuer thread
> is to be made available (as well as the mempool), the option of
> reinstating recursion is there too - only punting to workqueue when the
> stack actually becomes "too big".  (Also bear in mind that some dm
> targets may have dependencies on their own mempools - submission can
> block there too.)  I find it helpful only to consider splitting into two
> pieces - it must always be possible to process the first piece (i.e.
> process it at the next layer down in the stack) and complete it
> independently of what happens to the second piece (which might require
> further splitting and block until the first piece has completed).

I'm sure it could be made to work (and it may well simpler), but it
seems problematic from a performance pov.

With stacked devices you'd then have to switch stacks on _every_ bio.
That could be made fast enough I'm sure, but it wouldn't be free and I
don't know of any existing code in the kernel that implements what we'd
need (though if you know how you'd go about doing that, I'd love to
know! Would be useful for other things).

The real problem is that because we'd need these extra stacks for
handling all bios we couldn't get by with just one per bio_set. We'd
only need one to make forward progress so the rest could be allocated
on demand (i.e. what the workqueue code does) but that sounds like it's
starting to get expensive.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-29 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-28 17:37 [PATCH v7 0/9] Block cleanups, deadlock fix Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] block: Generalized bio pool freeing Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] dm: Use bioset's front_pad for dm_rq_clone_bio_info Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] block: Add bio_reset() Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:31   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:17     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 22:53       ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-01  2:23       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-05 20:13         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] pktcdvd: Switch to bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:32   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:24     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04  9:05     ` Jiri Kosina
2012-09-05 19:44       ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] block: Kill bi_destructor Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:36   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:07     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] block: Consolidate bio_alloc_bioset(), bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:41   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:03     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-01  2:17       ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] block: Add bio_clone_bioset(), bio_clone_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:44   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:05     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-01  2:19       ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] block: Reorder struct bio_set Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 17:37 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] block: Avoid deadlocks with bio allocation by stacking drivers Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 20:49   ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-28 22:28     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 23:01       ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-29  1:31         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-29  3:25           ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-29 12:57             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-29 14:39               ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-08-29 16:26                 ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2012-08-29 21:01                   ` John Stoffel
2012-08-29 21:08                     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-28 22:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-28 22:23     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-29 16:24   ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-08-29 16:50     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-29 16:57       ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-08-29 17:07       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-29 17:13         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-29 17:23           ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-08-29 17:32             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-30 22:07           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-31  1:43             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-31  1:55               ` Kent Overstreet
2012-08-31 15:01               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-03  1:26                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-03 20:41               ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-09-04  3:41                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 18:55                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-04 19:01                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-04 19:43                       ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 19:42                     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 21:03                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-04 19:26                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-09-04 19:39                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-04 19:51                     ` [PATCH] dm: Use bioset's front_pad for dm_target_io Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 21:20                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 19:28                       ` [PATCH 2] " Mikulas Patocka
2012-09-11 19:50                         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-12 22:31                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-09-14 23:09                             ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-01  2:13             ` [PATCH v7 9/9] block: Avoid deadlocks with bio allocation by stacking drivers Tejun Heo
2012-09-03  1:34               ` [PATCH v2] " Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 15:00               ` [PATCH v7 9/9] " Vivek Goyal
2012-09-03  0:49             ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-03  1:17               ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-04 13:54               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-04 18:26                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-05  3:57                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-09-05  4:37                     ` Tejun Heo

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