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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] livepatch/rcu: Warn when system consistency is broken in RCU code
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 13:15:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170508201558.GD3956@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170508194729.jjq7qrc7gkiq2s5v@treble>

On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 02:47:29PM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 03:13:22PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > If rcu is not watching, calling rcu_enter_irq() will have it watch
> > again. Even in NMI context I believe.
> 
> What if you get an NMI while running in rcu_dynticks_eqs_enter() before
> it increments rdtp->dynticks?  Will rcu_enter_irq() still work from the
                                      rcu_irq_enter()
> NMI?

The rcu_nmi_enter() function willl notice that RCU is not watching, and
will therefore atomically increment RCU's dynticks-idle counter, which
will be atomically incremented again upon return.  Since the bottom bit
of this counter controls whether or not RCU is watching, RCU will be
watching during the NMI, will stop watching upon return from the NMI,
which restores state so as to allow rcu_irq_enter() to cause RCU to once
again watch.  (NMI algorithm due to Andy Lutomirski.)

> I'm just trying to understand what are the cases where rcu_enter_irq()
> *doesn't* work from an ftrace handler.

It doesn't work from an NMI handler.  Aside from possible architecture
specific special cases, it should work everywhere else.

> > > I wonder if there's some way to solve this by changing RCU code, but I'm
> > > not familiar enough with RCU to have any ideas there.
> > 
> > You don't want to go there.
> 
> I believe you :-)

Adding a notrace seems simple enough, but some care is indeed required
for more pervasive changes to RCU.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-08 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-04 10:55 [PATCH 0/3] livepatch/rcu: Handle some subtle issues between livepatching and RCU Petr Mladek
2017-05-04 10:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] livepatch/rcu: Guarantee consistency when patching idle kthreads Petr Mladek
2017-05-04 10:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] livepatch/rcu: Warn when system consistency is broken in RCU code Petr Mladek
2017-05-08 16:51   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 19:13     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-08 19:47       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 20:15         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-05-08 20:43           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 20:51             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 21:08               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-08 21:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-08 21:18               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-08 21:30                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-08 22:16               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 22:36                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-09 16:18                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-09 16:36                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-10 16:04                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-10 16:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-10 17:58                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-11 12:40                         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-05-11 15:03                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-08 21:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-08 20:18         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-11 12:50           ` Miroslav Benes
2017-05-11 13:52       ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-11 14:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-05-11 15:27         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-05-11 12:44     ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-04 10:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] livepatch/rcu: Disable livepatch removal when safety is not guaranteed Petr Mladek
2017-05-04 16:55 ` [PATCH 0/3] livepatch/rcu: Handle some subtle issues between livepatching and RCU Paul E. McKenney

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