From: Christoph Conrads <contact@christoph-conrads.name>
To: Edward Cree <ec429@cantab.net>
Cc: unconditionedwitness@redchan.it,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:50:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180923165050.56674786772aaa0985f5ba53@christoph-conrads.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9db544f-db9d-d6c4-67d8-43db2eb591fc@cantab.net>
Dear Edward,
> I know others have already said it, but:
> This is legally nonsense. The only way I can revoke someone's rights to
> my code under the GPL is if they violate the terms of the GPL.
this aspect of FOSS licenses has -- to the best of my knowledge --
never been tested in court. Actually, the Free Software Foundation felt
compelled to clarify this point in GPLv3 and there is a thread on
StackOverflow acknowledging the possibility of revoking a license [1].
Finally, revoking the license may very well be possible in some
jurisdictions but not all of them, e.g., Australia [2]. There are 195
independent states in this world and I do not think you can make such a
broad claim if it has never been legally contested before.
By the way your e-mail is violating the code of coduct.
> This is legally nonsense.
You are not empathic towards others and respectful of differing
viewpoints.
> In short, "unconditionedwitness", please shut up. You're not helping.
The comment is derogatory if not downright offensive.
[1]
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/832/is-a-copyright-license-by-default-revocable-or-irrevocable
[2]
https://web.archive.org/web/20091024034824/http://www.ilaw.com.au/public/licencearticle.html
Sincerely
Christoph Conrads
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:57:15 +0100
Edward Cree <ec429@cantab.net> wrote:
> On 20/09/18 10:27, unconditionedwitness@redchan.it wrote:
> > Contributors can, at any time, rescind the license grant regarding their
> > property via written notice to those whom they are rescinding the grant
> > from (regarding their property (code)).
>
> I know others have already said it, but:
> This is legally nonsense. The only way I can revoke someone's rights to
> my code under the GPL is if they violate the terms of the GPL. If I
> were to do so otherwise, then _I_ would be in violation for having
> distributed derived works of the kernel without a GPL, not to mention
> the obvious reliance/estoppel problems.
>
> Moreover, even if I _could_ revoke the license, I wouldn't want to do
> so; it would be ridiculously petty in itself and the precedent it would
> set would be destructive to the entire open-source community, about
> which I care deeply. It is _because_ Linux and other open-source
> projects are so important to humanity that I spoke up about what I
> perceive as a threat to it.
>
> In short, "unconditionedwitness", please shut up. You're not helping.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-23 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-19 6:00 Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it Edward Cree
2018-09-19 14:18 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-19 23:35 ` Edward Cree
2018-09-20 1:16 ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-20 2:14 ` Edward Cree
2018-09-21 1:48 ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-21 2:16 ` unixing
2018-09-21 13:07 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2018-09-21 16:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-21 23:15 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-21 23:20 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-21 23:31 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-21 23:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-24 18:59 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 19:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-25 2:24 ` gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-25 17:14 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 0:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-26 19:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 20:55 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-28 18:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-28 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2018-09-28 19:38 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-29 12:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-29 12:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-22 0:05 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-22 0:24 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-24 17:43 ` Max Filippov
2018-09-24 18:07 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-23 18:44 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 23:48 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-24 17:25 ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-25 11:28 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-25 12:36 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 13:13 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-25 13:41 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 17:38 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 13:28 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-26 10:24 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-25 15:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-25 22:30 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-26 11:17 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-20 3:07 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-20 4:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-09-20 9:27 ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-20 22:57 ` Edward Cree
2018-09-23 14:50 ` Christoph Conrads [this message]
2018-09-23 18:41 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 17:21 ` unconditionedwitness
[not found] ` <c61eb2d545150d46428f4bc25843cd58@redchan.it>
[not found] ` <201809241941.44460.dr.klepp@gmx.at>
[not found] ` <20180924204809.GK23968@linuxmafia.com>
2018-09-25 2:09 ` [DNG] Fwd: " gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-20 9:29 ` unconditionedwitness
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-20 21:18 Christoph Conrads
2018-09-21 8:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-21 11:36 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-17 11:48 Lukas Wunner
2018-09-17 12:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-18 19:16 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-19 10:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 20:16 ` Lukas Wunner
[not found] ` <61b4a3f9-ccd1-061c-1c1b-ec993b056c66@bosch-fellbach.de>
2018-09-20 10:57 ` Lukas Wunner
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