From: Edward Cree <ec429@cantab.net>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:14:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMjgo5zwKvsbi8txGQbvFHR2N7xKphzhTSGOrruN3+RC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 20/09/18 02:16, Olof Johansson wrote:
> I would be very surprised if any of my peers on the TAB ever had those
> intentions, and I know I would not have them myself.
In case my references to individualsmade it unclear: I have no reason to
suspect _any_ of the present TAB members would; everything I know about
them points to them being good, honest and principled people.
> I can
> see how that kind of environment _could_ be implemented with the same
> code of conduct as a base, but [...] I know I
> would fight strongly against that.
It is definitely reassuring to hear you say that.
> There is a list in the first paragraph, but the preceding words say
> that it should be a *harassment-free experience for everyone*. That
> part of the paragraph is to me the most important part.
It certainly _should_ be the most important; IMHO the sentence should end
after 'everyone'.
> Your above argument that the Code of Conduct is problematic because of
> who wrote it seems to contradict your statement that we shall judge by
> code (or text) alone.
I think there are important differences between code to be run by CPUs
and a Code to be run by humans. And when the author goes on a victory
lap on Twitter and declares the Code to be "a political document", is
it any surprise I'm worried?
Applying extra scrutiny to a political document written by someone with a
history ofstirring up political antagonism is like checking the locking
extra-carefully in a patch from a developer who has a history of letting
locking bugs slip through.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-20 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-19 6:00 Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it Edward Cree
2018-09-19 14:18 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-19 23:35 ` Edward Cree
2018-09-20 1:16 ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-20 2:14 ` Edward Cree [this message]
2018-09-21 1:48 ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-21 2:16 ` unixing
2018-09-21 13:07 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2018-09-21 16:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-21 23:15 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-21 23:20 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-21 23:31 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-21 23:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-24 18:59 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 19:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-25 2:24 ` gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-25 17:14 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 0:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-26 19:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 20:55 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-28 18:34 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-28 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2018-09-28 19:38 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-29 12:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-29 12:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-22 0:05 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-22 0:24 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-24 17:43 ` Max Filippov
2018-09-24 18:07 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-23 18:44 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 23:48 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-24 17:25 ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-25 11:28 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-25 12:36 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 13:13 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-25 13:41 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 17:38 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 13:28 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-26 10:24 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-25 15:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-25 22:30 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-26 11:17 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-20 3:07 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-20 4:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-09-20 9:27 ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-20 22:57 ` Edward Cree
2018-09-23 14:50 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-23 18:41 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 17:21 ` unconditionedwitness
[not found] ` <c61eb2d545150d46428f4bc25843cd58@redchan.it>
[not found] ` <201809241941.44460.dr.klepp@gmx.at>
[not found] ` <20180924204809.GK23968@linuxmafia.com>
2018-09-25 2:09 ` [DNG] Fwd: " gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-20 9:29 ` unconditionedwitness
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-20 21:18 Christoph Conrads
2018-09-21 8:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-21 11:36 ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-17 11:48 Lukas Wunner
2018-09-17 12:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-18 19:16 ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-19 10:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 20:16 ` Lukas Wunner
[not found] ` <61b4a3f9-ccd1-061c-1c1b-ec993b056c66@bosch-fellbach.de>
2018-09-20 10:57 ` Lukas Wunner
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