From: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: numlist_push() barriers Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] printk-rb: add a new printk ringbuffer implementation
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:34:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190826083436.GA3047@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190823092109.doduc36avylm5cds@pathway.suse.cz>
> > + /*
> > + * bA:
> > + *
> > + * Setup the node to be a list terminator: next_id == id.
> > + */
> > + WRITE_ONCE(n->next_id, id);
>
> Do we need WRITE_ONCE() here?
> Both "n" and "id" are given as parameters and do not change.
> The assigment must be done before "id" is set as nl->head_id.
> The ordering is enforced by cmpxchg_release().
(Disclaimer: this is still a very much debated issue...)
According to the LKMM, this question boils down to the question:
Is there "ordering"/synchronization between the above access and
the "matching accesses" bF and aA' to the same location?
Again according to the LKMM's analysis, such synchronization is provided
by the RELEASE -> "reads-from" -> ADDR relation. (Encoding address dep.
in litmus tests is kind of tricky but possible, e.g., for the pattern in
question, we could write/model as follows:
C S+ponarelease+addroncena
{
int *y = &a;
}
P0(int *x, int **y, int *a)
{
int *r0;
*x = 2;
r0 = cmpxchg_release(y, a, x);
}
P1(int *x, int **y)
{
int *r0;
r0 = READ_ONCE(*y);
*r0 = 1;
}
exists (1:r0=x /\ x=2)
Then
$ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg S+ponarelease+addroncena
Test S+ponarelease+addroncena Allowed
States 2
1:r0=a; x=2;
1:r0=x; x=1;
No
Witnesses
Positive: 0 Negative: 2
Condition exists (1:r0=x /\ x=2)
Observation S+ponarelease+addroncena Never 0 2
Time S+ponarelease+addroncena 0.01
Hash=7eaf7b5e95419a3c352d7fd50b9cd0d5
that is, the test is not racy and the "exists" clause is not satisfiable
in the LKMM. Notice that _if the READ_ONCE(*y) in P1 were replaced by a
plain read, then we would obtain:
Test S+ponarelease+addrnana Allowed
States 2
1:r0=x; x=1;
1:r0=x; x=2;
Ok
Witnesses
Positive: 1 Negative: 1
Flag data-race [ <-- the LKMM warns about a data-race ]
Condition exists (1:r0=x /\ x=2)
Observation S+ponarelease+addrnana Sometimes 1 1
Time S+ponarelease+addrnana 0.00
Hash=a61acf2e8e51c2129d33ddf5e4c76a49
N.B. This analysis generally depends on the assumption that every marked
access (e.g., the cmpxchg_release() called out above and the READ_ONCE()
heading the address dependencies) are _single-copy atomic, an assumption
which has been recently shown to _not be valid in such generality:
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190821103200.kpufwtviqhpbuv2n@willie-the-truck
(Bug in the LKMM? or in the Linux implementation of these primitives? or
in the compiler? your blame here...)
[...]
> > + /*
> > + * bD:
> > + *
> > + * Set @seq to +1 of @seq from the previous head.
> > + *
> > + * Memory barrier involvement:
> > + *
> > + * If bB reads from bE, then bC->aA reads from bD.
> > + *
> > + * Relies on:
> > + *
> > + * RELEASE from bD to bE
> > + * matching
> > + * ADDRESS DEP. from bB to bC->aA
> > + */
> > + WRITE_ONCE(n->seq, seq + 1);
>
> Do we really need WRITE_ONCE() here?
> It is the same problem as with setting n->next_id above.
Same considerations as above would apply here.
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-26 8:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-07 22:26 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] printk-rb: add a new printk " John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:15 ` numlist_pop(): " Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:41 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 8:22 ` assign_desc() barriers: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 14:14 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:52 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 11:53 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:06 ` John Ogness
2019-08-26 8:21 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:55 ` comments style: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 9:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:46 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 13:50 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-22 17:38 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 10:47 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 14:27 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 9:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 5:54 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 10:29 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 12:44 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 13:50 ` dataring_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 14:36 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 13:43 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 15:12 ` datablock reuse races " Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 9:21 ` numlist_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 8:34 ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2019-08-26 8:43 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 14:10 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 16:01 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 22:36 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 7:40 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-27 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 15:07 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 10:24 ` John Ogness
2019-08-23 17:18 ` numlist API " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 23:57 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 13:03 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 7:13 ` John Ogness
2019-08-28 8:58 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 14:03 ` John Ogness
2019-08-29 11:28 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-03 7:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-30 14:48 ` dataring " Petr Mladek
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] printk-rb: add test module John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] printk-rb: fix missing includes/exports John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] printk-rb: initialize new descriptors as invalid John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:23 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 10:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:56 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] printk-rb: remove extra data buffer size allocation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] printk-rb: adjust test module ringbuffer sizes John Ogness
2019-08-19 21:29 ` [PATCH] printk-rb: fix test module macro usage John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] printk-rb: increase size of seq and size variables John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] printk-rb: new functionality to support printk John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:59 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:47 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] printk: use a new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-08 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 22:55 ` John Ogness
2019-08-08 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 23:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 0:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 11:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-09 7:08 ` John Ogness
2019-08-09 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-10 5:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-10 3:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-12 9:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-16 5:46 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 5:54 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 9:40 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:35 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: " Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 13:05 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-05 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 15:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-05 16:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-05 21:10 ` John Ogness
2019-09-06 9:39 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-09 14:11 ` printk meeting at LPC Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-13 13:26 ` John Ogness
2019-09-13 14:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-15 13:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-16 8:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-16 4:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-16 10:46 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-16 13:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-16 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-09-17 8:11 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 7:52 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 13:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 13:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-09-17 13:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 14:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-17 7:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 1:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 2:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-18 2:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 7:42 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 9:05 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 9:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 16:41 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-18 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-24 14:24 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-19 8:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-18 7:33 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-04 14:48 ` Tony Asleson
2019-10-07 12:01 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 9:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 10:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 13:44 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 12:42 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 19:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 22:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-08 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-10 3:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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