From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:07:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EA8FAD2.4090200@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030424235817.B25D73BD4F@mx01.nexgo.de
Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Fri 25 Apr 03 00:45, Alan Cox wrote:
[...]
>>In the MUD world we solved that by not telling anyone about objects they
>>can't see.
>
> Doing the visibility calculations on the server, down to the pixel, is
> possible but not really practical.
>
Sure, but one can do better than quake. The server can have
a look at the "terrain" at startup, and divide it into a
bunch of regions and calculate which regions cannot
bee seen from each other. You can then do
fast simplified visibility calculation on the server,
by looking up positions in a lookup table. Players
in tunnels and such isn't visible from most of the
level so such structures would then provide the
desired surprises - even for cheaters.
Also, one can use a representation that makes it hard for
an AI to guess what is "wall" and what is a "player".
The players could be polygons just like everything else,
and a good level would have more moving items than
players so movement detection won't be a good
heuristic either.
Helge Hafting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-25 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-24 20:39 Flame Linus to a crisp! Downing, Thomas
2003-04-24 21:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 21:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-24 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-24 23:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-25 9:07 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2003-04-25 13:01 ` David Luyer
2003-04-25 8:13 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-04-25 19:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-25 20:56 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-04-25 21:50 ` Jamie Lokier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-28 9:30 Martin_List-Petersen
2003-04-25 12:57 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-25 12:41 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-25 12:36 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-27 7:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-04-25 12:23 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-24 22:10 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-24 22:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 21:55 Daniel Callahan
2003-04-24 12:36 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-24 14:12 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 22:48 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 12:29 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2003-04-25 15:45 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] <20030424041004$113a@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-24 4:53 ` Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler
2003-04-24 3:59 Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 4:40 ` Joel Jaeggli
2003-04-24 4:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-24 4:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 5:02 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-04-24 5:39 ` viro
2003-04-24 5:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-24 8:46 ` Dax Kelson
2003-04-24 9:46 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-04-24 10:54 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-25 0:07 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-04-24 4:54 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-04-24 5:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 13:08 ` Shawn
2003-04-24 20:12 ` Kenneth Johansson
2003-04-24 17:32 ` Andreas Boman
2003-04-24 17:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-24 19:39 ` Balram Adlakha
2003-04-26 17:05 ` Riley Williams
2003-04-24 5:02 ` Mark J Roberts
2003-04-24 5:13 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-04-24 5:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-24 5:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 6:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-24 7:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 8:03 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-04-25 1:16 ` Jan Harkes
2003-04-25 1:35 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-04-24 8:16 ` John Bradford
2003-04-24 8:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 8:59 ` John Bradford
2003-04-24 8:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 14:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 15:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-04-24 19:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-24 19:32 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 20:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 20:35 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 19:39 ` Balram Adlakha
2003-04-24 21:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 18:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-24 21:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 21:37 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 21:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 21:38 ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 3:20 ` Shawn
2003-04-25 5:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-25 7:02 ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 8:52 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-25 14:03 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-24 21:42 ` Russell King
2003-04-25 6:08 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-04-25 11:46 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-24 10:57 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-24 22:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-04-24 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 8:37 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-04-24 8:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 12:52 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-04-24 15:37 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 18:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-24 20:46 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 20:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 21:03 ` Chris Adams
2003-04-24 22:29 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 22:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 22:54 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 0:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 22:41 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 14:21 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-27 16:13 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-24 19:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 19:50 ` Balram Adlakha
2003-04-24 8:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-24 9:19 ` Russell King
2003-04-24 11:38 ` Shachar Shemesh
2003-04-24 17:46 ` Shachar Shemesh
2003-04-24 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 12:39 ` Mark Mielke
2003-04-24 15:53 ` Elladan
2003-04-24 18:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-24 23:15 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-25 11:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-04-27 1:31 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-27 1:59 ` David Wagner
2003-04-25 14:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-25 15:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-25 17:37 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-26 21:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-26 13:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-04-26 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-26 18:41 ` viro
2003-04-26 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-28 14:20 ` John Stoffel
2003-04-26 19:23 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-28 10:35 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-04-28 12:12 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-28 14:01 ` Zack Gilburd
2003-04-28 14:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-04-26 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-26 23:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-27 3:59 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-24 20:16 ` Nils Holland
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