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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net, qyousef@layalina.io,
	chris.hyser@oracle.com, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net,
	pjt@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, qperret@google.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, joshdon@google.com, timj@gnu.org,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com,
	youssefesmat@chromium.org, joel@joelfernandes.org, efault@gmx.de,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/15] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 15:45:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtCnEdPpZSu3=t4tTEm-nWEwkyTwQuTLngcgABhcMGWvZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230531124604.341527144@infradead.org>

On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 14:47, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> In the case where (due to latency-nice) there are different request
> sizes in the tree, the smaller requests tend to be dominated by the
> larger. Also note how the EEVDF lag limits are based on r_max.
>
> Therefore; add a heuristic that for the mixed request size case, moves
> smaller requests to placement strategy #2 which ensures they're
> immidiately eligible and and due to their smaller (virtual) deadline
> will cause preemption.
>
> NOTE: this relies on update_entity_lag() to impose lag limits above
> a single slice.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c     |   30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  kernel/sched/features.h |    1 +
>  kernel/sched/sched.h    |    1 +
>  3 files changed, 32 insertions(+)
>
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -642,6 +642,7 @@ avg_vruntime_add(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
>         s64 key = entity_key(cfs_rq, se);
>
>         cfs_rq->avg_vruntime += key * weight;
> +       cfs_rq->avg_slice += se->slice * weight;
>         cfs_rq->avg_load += weight;
>  }
>
> @@ -652,6 +653,7 @@ avg_vruntime_sub(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
>         s64 key = entity_key(cfs_rq, se);
>
>         cfs_rq->avg_vruntime -= key * weight;
> +       cfs_rq->avg_slice -= se->slice * weight;
>         cfs_rq->avg_load -= weight;
>  }
>
> @@ -4908,6 +4910,21 @@ static inline void update_misfit_status(
>
>  #endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
>
> +static inline bool
> +entity_has_slept(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
> +{
> +       u64 now;
> +
> +       if (!(flags & ENQUEUE_WAKEUP))
> +               return false;
> +
> +       if (flags & ENQUEUE_MIGRATED)
> +               return true;
> +
> +       now = rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq));
> +       return (s64)(se->exec_start - now) >= se->slice;
> +}
> +
>  static void
>  place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
>  {
> @@ -4930,6 +4947,19 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, stru
>                 lag = se->vlag;
>
>                 /*
> +                * For latency sensitive tasks; those that have a shorter than
> +                * average slice and do not fully consume the slice, transition
> +                * to EEVDF placement strategy #2.
> +                */
> +               if (sched_feat(PLACE_FUDGE) &&
> +                   (cfs_rq->avg_slice > se->slice * cfs_rq->avg_load) &&
> +                   entity_has_slept(cfs_rq, se, flags)) {
> +                       lag += vslice;
> +                       if (lag > 0)
> +                               lag = 0;

This PLACE_FUDGE looks quite not a good heuristic because it breaks
the better fair sharing of cpu bandwidth that EEVDF is supposed to
bring. Furthermore, it breaks the isolation between cpu bandwidth and
latency because playing with latency_nice will impact your cpu
bandwidth

> +               }
> +
> +               /*
>                  * If we want to place a task and preserve lag, we have to
>                  * consider the effect of the new entity on the weighted
>                  * average and compensate for this, otherwise lag can quickly
> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
>   * sleep+wake cycles. EEVDF placement strategy #1, #2 if disabled.
>   */
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_LAG, true)
> +SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_FUDGE, true)
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_DEADLINE_INITIAL, true)
>
>  /*
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -555,6 +555,7 @@ struct cfs_rq {
>         unsigned int            idle_h_nr_running; /* SCHED_IDLE */
>
>         s64                     avg_vruntime;
> +       u64                     avg_slice;
>         u64                     avg_load;
>
>         u64                     exec_clock;
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-02 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-31 11:58 [PATCH 00/15] sched: EEVDF and latency-nice and/or slice-attr Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 01/15] sched/fair: Add avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-02 13:51   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-02 14:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-05  7:18       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Add cfs_rq::avg_vruntime tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11  4:15   ` [PATCH 01/15] sched/fair: Add avg_vruntime Abel Wu
2023-10-11  7:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11  8:30       ` Abel Wu
2023-10-11  9:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 10:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 13:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 02/15] sched/fair: Remove START_DEBIT Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Remove sched_feat(START_DEBIT) tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 03/15] sched/fair: Add lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 12:00   ` [PATCH 03/15] " Abel Wu
2023-10-11 13:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-12  7:04       ` Abel Wu
2023-10-13  7:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-13  8:14           ` Abel Wu
2023-10-12 19:15   ` Benjamin Segall
2023-10-12 22:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-13 16:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-14  8:08         ` Mike Galbraith
2023-10-13 14:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 04/15] rbtree: Add rb_add_augmented_cached() helper Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 05/15] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF-like scheduling policy tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-29 21:40   ` [PATCH 05/15] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy Benjamin Segall
2023-10-02 17:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11  4:14     ` Abel Wu
2023-10-11  7:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 11:49         ` Abel Wu
2023-09-30  0:09   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix pick_eevdf to always find the correct se Benjamin Segall
2023-10-03 10:42     ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/fair: Fix pick_eevdf() tip-bot2 for Benjamin Segall
     [not found]     ` <CGME20231004203940eucas1p2f73b017497d1f4239a6e236fdb6019e2@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-10-04 20:39       ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix pick_eevdf to always find the correct se Marek Szyprowski
2023-10-09  7:53     ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/eevdf: Fix pick_eevdf() tip-bot2 for Benjamin Segall
2023-10-11 12:12     ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix pick_eevdf to always find the correct se Abel Wu
2023-10-11 13:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-12 10:04         ` Abel Wu
2023-10-11 21:01       ` Benjamin Segall
2023-10-12 10:25         ` Abel Wu
2023-10-12 17:51           ` Benjamin Segall
2023-10-13  3:46             ` Abel Wu
2023-10-13 16:51               ` Benjamin Segall
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 06/15] sched: Commit to lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 07/15] sched/smp: Use lag to simplify cross-runqueue placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 15:32   ` [PATCH 07/15] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-13  9:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-04  1:17   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Preserve PLACE_DEADLINE_INITIAL deadline Daniel Jordan
2023-10-04 13:09     ` [PATCH v2] " Daniel Jordan
2023-10-04 15:46       ` Chen Yu
2023-10-06 16:31         ` Daniel Jordan
2023-10-12  4:48       ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-10-05  5:56     ` [PATCH] " K Prateek Nayak
2023-10-06 16:35       ` Daniel Jordan
2023-10-06 16:48   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Always update_curr() before placing at enqueue Daniel Jordan
2023-10-06 19:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-18  0:43       ` Daniel Jordan
2023-10-16  5:39     ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 08/15] sched: Commit to EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-16 21:23   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-06-22 12:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2023-06-22 13:11       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 09/15] sched/debug: Rename min_granularity to base_slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/debug: Rename sysctl_sched_min_granularity to sysctl_sched_base_slice tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 10/15] sched/fair: Propagate enqueue flags into place_entity() Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-10  7:10   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [PATCH 11/15] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-02 13:45   ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2023-06-02 15:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-10  6:34   ` Chen Yu
2023-06-10 11:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/15] sched: Introduce latency-nice as a per-task attribute Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/15] sched/fair: Implement latency-nice Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 14:54   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-08 10:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-08 12:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 23:24   ` Benjamin Segall
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/15] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-31 11:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/15] sched/eevdf: Use sched_attr::sched_runtime to set request/slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-01 13:55   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-08 11:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-24  0:52 ` [PATCH 00/15] sched: EEVDF and latency-nice and/or slice-attr Daniel Jordan
2023-09-06 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-29 16:54     ` Youssef Esmat
2023-10-02 15:55       ` Youssef Esmat
2023-10-02 18:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-05 12:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-05 14:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-05 14:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-05 18:23           ` Youssef Esmat
2023-10-06  0:36             ` Youssef Esmat
2023-10-10  8:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-07 22:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-09 14:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-10  0:51             ` Youssef Esmat
2023-10-10  8:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-16 16:50               ` Peter Zijlstra

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