From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Thunder from the hill <thunder@lightweight.ods.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>,
Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Raceless module interface
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:09:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17pr8P-00089M-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209130750270.10048-100000@hawkeye.luckynet.adm>
On Friday 13 September 2002 15:52, Thunder from the hill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > On Friday 13 September 2002 08:51, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > [cool code]
> >
> > Why is that different from:
> >
> > [more code]
>
> Because in your example, my_module_start() would not be able to run
> separately
That's obvious. What hasn't been shown is why that's necessary.
Note: this is the *real* meaning of "begs the question". You answered
my question "why is it necessary the these to be separate" with "because
if they were not separate, then you could not use them separately". In
logical terms, it amounts to "A because A". This is a logical falacy
called "begging the question".
When people say "begs the question", 99% of the time they really mean
"invites the question". As an exercise, try scanning lkml for "From
includes Torvalds" and "begs". Linus studied debating ;-)
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-13 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-04 18:02 Question about pseudo filesystems Jamie Lokier
2002-09-07 12:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 13:36 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-07 18:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-07 19:47 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-08 2:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-08 2:43 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-15 1:41 ` Moving a mount point (was Re: Question about pseudo filesystems) Rob Landley
2002-09-08 16:00 ` Question about pseudo filesystems Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-09 20:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 0:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 1:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 1:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 2:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 3:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 3:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 9:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 10:17 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 18:35 ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 18:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 19:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 20:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-11 21:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 21:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-11 21:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 1:42 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 2:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-12 3:13 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 3:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 3:53 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-12 4:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 4:40 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 5:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 14:46 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-09-13 0:39 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 2:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 5:35 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 4:52 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 5:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 7:00 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 8:18 ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-12 3:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 1:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 9:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-09-12 11:27 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-12 13:03 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-12 13:44 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 1:30 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 2:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 6:51 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-13 13:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 13:52 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:09 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-09-13 14:33 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 14:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 14:59 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:27 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 15:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 2:17 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 16:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:36 ` Understanding the Principles of Argumentation #3 Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 16:42 ` Robinson Maureira Castillo
2002-09-16 17:29 ` Cort Dougan
2002-09-16 22:31 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-01 14:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-01 14:27 ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-13 15:59 ` [RFC] Raceless module interface Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 3:14 ` David Gibson
2002-09-13 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 13:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:13 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 15:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 15:55 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-13 16:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13 16:39 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-13 17:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 0:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-16 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-16 21:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-16 21:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 22:44 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-11 15:28 ` Question about pseudo filesystems Bill Davidsen
2002-09-11 19:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 20:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-09-10 1:39 ` Alexander Viro
2002-09-09 20:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 6:48 ` Kai Henningsen
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