From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>
To: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
Cc: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Input issues - key down with no key up
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:04:58 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1030819143241.29184C-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030818122933.A970@pclin040.win.tue.nl>
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> > Well, mode #3 with no translation in the i8042 looks quite sanely.
>
> In theory perhaps. In practice it isnt sane at all.
Yep, the design is clean. And we can handle it for good devices, for its
additional functionality (e.g. autorepeat of <Pause> ;-) ) and to have a
clean reference design of code. I see no reason to "punish" good devices
for the faults of bad ones.
> (That is, the majority of the keyboards sold today do not do as one
> would wish. Since Microsoft does not require anything for Set 3,
> behaviour in Set 3 is essentially random, especially for these
> additional keys and buttons. A single keypress may give several
> scancodes, or none at all. Many laptops do not have any support
Well, we need not take care of non-standard keys -- as such they need to
be handled on a case-by-case basis (with customized key maps). The sort
of standard Win keys seem to have a consistent definition across devices;
at least it was the case with the ones I've encountered.
If standard keys are broken, then we can still revert to mode #2 with all
its limits as we do now. At least we can disable the translation in the
i8042 to get full and unambiguous scan codes.
> for Set 3. USB compatibility only implements compatibility with
> translated Set 2.)
That's actually irrelevant -- it's already an emulation. AFAIK, we can
handle USB keyboards natively just fine, so we don't need to make use of
this translation layer.
Maciej
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-19 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-15 5:16 Input issues - key down with no key up Neil Brown
2003-08-15 7:46 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 10:58 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 12:36 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 12:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:52 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 14:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 15:05 ` Jason Lunz
2003-08-15 13:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 13:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:02 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-16 14:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 21:54 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-18 12:22 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-18 10:29 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-19 13:04 ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2003-08-19 17:48 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 11:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:45 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 14:38 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 13:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 14:08 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:14 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 14:33 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 14:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 15:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 15:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 13:01 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-15 12:46 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-15 12:54 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-15 13:52 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-15 14:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-16 7:57 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-18 16:01 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 11:40 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-19 11:50 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-19 23:59 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-20 22:36 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-20 22:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20 23:52 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 0:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 0:33 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 1:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 8:08 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 8:06 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-21 11:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 12:48 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-21 13:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 13:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-21 8:01 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-22 0:27 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-22 7:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25 4:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25 8:22 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-25 19:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 13:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-16 15:15 John Bradford
2003-08-18 11:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-19 19:37 John Bradford
2003-08-19 23:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-20 5:59 John Bradford
2003-08-20 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-21 12:11 John Bradford
2003-08-21 12:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-23 12:30 Norman Diamond
2003-08-25 4:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-25 12:15 ` Norman Diamond
2003-08-25 8:45 John Bradford
2003-08-25 12:47 John Bradford
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