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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Collin Walling" <walling@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Sagar Karandikar" <sagark@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@sifive.com>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Alistair Francis" <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Helge Deller" <deller@gmx.de>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Artyom Tarasenko" <atar4qemu@gmail.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"open list:S390" <qemu-s390x@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"open list:RISC-V" <qemu-riscv@nongnu.org>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] [RFC PATCH 1/3] hw/Kconfig: PCI bus implies PCI_DEVICES
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:40:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wogayype.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <beb5fe93-991d-ba2b-d2c1-51e01b912dbe@redhat.com> (Thomas Huth's message of "Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:04:24 +0200")

Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:

> On 16/07/2019 15.06, Markus Armbruster wrote:
[...]
>> 2. We want a way to Kconfig the PCI devices that work, i.e. only the
>>    ones that support MSI or MSI-X.
>> 
>> I don't like calling devices without any MSI capability "classic" or
>> "conventional devices".  I'd rather call them "MSI-capable" or
>> "MSI/MSI-X devices".
>
> But you still need a config switch that you can set to enable the
> non-MSI devices ... what's so wrong with "conventional" if that's even
> the wording from the PCI SIG?

PCI Express Base Specification, rev. 3.0, section Terms and
Acronyms:

    conventional PCI    Behavior or features that conform to the PCI
                        Local Bus Specification.

In other words, "conventional PCI" is non-Express PCI.

A PCI Express device *must* support MSI or MSI-X.  See PCI Express Base
Specification, rev. 3.0, section 7.7. MSI and MSI-X Capability
Structures.

A "conventional" PCI device *may* support MSI or MSI-X.  See PCI Local
Bus Specification Revision 3.0 section 6.8.  Message Signaled
Interrupts.

Conflating MSI-capable with conventional vs. Express is therefore wrong.

[...]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-22 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-15  9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] hw/Kconfig: PCI & USB fixes Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/3] hw/Kconfig: PCI bus implies PCI_DEVICES Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15 10:15   ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 10:19     ` Peter Maydell
2019-07-15 10:48       ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 10:56         ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Cornelia Huck
2019-07-15 11:04           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15 11:09             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-15 13:19               ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 13:38                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15 13:49                   ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 16:08                   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-07-15 16:12                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-15 18:22                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 13:06                         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-07-16 15:04                           ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-17 12:59                             ` Collin Walling
2019-07-17 13:52                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-17 14:54                                 ` Collin Walling
2019-07-17 15:04                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-18 15:33                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-22 13:40                             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2019-07-15  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-for-4.2 2/3] hw/usb/Kconfig: Add CONFIG_USB_EHCI_PCI Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15 10:54   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " BALATON Zoltan
2019-07-15 11:03     ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 11:10       ` BALATON Zoltan
2019-07-15 11:19         ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 11:20         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-15 11:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Thomas Huth
2019-07-15  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH-for-4.1? 3/3] hw/usb/Kconfig: USB_XHCI_NEC requires USB_XHCI Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-15 10:50   ` Thomas Huth
2019-07-15 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] hw/Kconfig: PCI & USB fixes Paolo Bonzini

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