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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] block: move queues types to the block layer
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:20:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00bcc7f1-9d2b-ceb8-49d6-b3c857fd2df7@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130080013.GB18936@lst.de>

On 11/30/18 1:00 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 01:19:14PM -0700, Keith Busch wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:12:58PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> +enum hctx_type {
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_DEFAULT,	/* all I/O not otherwise accounted for */
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_READ,		/* just for READ I/O */
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_POLL,		/* polled I/O of any kind */
>>> +
>>> +	HCTX_MAX_TYPES,
>>>  };
>>
>> Well, there goes my plan to use this with Weighted-Round-Robin NVMe IO
>> queues!
> 
> Wo between what do you even want to round robin?  If it is between
> reads and writes that's easy.  If we want priority reads or writes
> (separate from polling) that's also still fairly easily.
> 
> Btw, one thing I wanted to try once I get hold of the right hardware
> is to mark the poll queues as priority queues and see if that makes
> any differents in poll IOPS/latency.

Probably not a lot, if anything. Only for heavily mixed cases I'd
suspect it to make a difference. I can run some tests with it.

And beware that I've seen weird queue priority issues, ala the one
fixed by:

commit 9abd68ef454c824bfd18629033367b4382b5f390 (tag: for-linus-20180511)
Author: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Date:   Tue May 8 10:25:15 2018 -0600

    nvme: add quirk to force medium priority for SQ creation

So we need to be careful with enabling priorities, I suspect. Hopefully
that's a standalone case.

-- 
Jens Axboe


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From: axboe@fb.com (Jens Axboe)
Subject: [PATCH 01/13] block: move queues types to the block layer
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:20:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00bcc7f1-9d2b-ceb8-49d6-b3c857fd2df7@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181130080013.GB18936@lst.de>

On 11/30/18 1:00 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018@01:19:14PM -0700, Keith Busch wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018@08:12:58PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> +enum hctx_type {
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_DEFAULT,	/* all I/O not otherwise accounted for */
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_READ,		/* just for READ I/O */
>>> +	HCTX_TYPE_POLL,		/* polled I/O of any kind */
>>> +
>>> +	HCTX_MAX_TYPES,
>>>  };
>>
>> Well, there goes my plan to use this with Weighted-Round-Robin NVMe IO
>> queues!
> 
> Wo between what do you even want to round robin?  If it is between
> reads and writes that's easy.  If we want priority reads or writes
> (separate from polling) that's also still fairly easily.
> 
> Btw, one thing I wanted to try once I get hold of the right hardware
> is to mark the poll queues as priority queues and see if that makes
> any differents in poll IOPS/latency.

Probably not a lot, if anything. Only for heavily mixed cases I'd
suspect it to make a difference. I can run some tests with it.

And beware that I've seen weird queue priority issues, ala the one
fixed by:

commit 9abd68ef454c824bfd18629033367b4382b5f390 (tag: for-linus-20180511)
Author: Jens Axboe <axboe at kernel.dk>
Date:   Tue May 8 10:25:15 2018 -0600

    nvme: add quirk to force medium priority for SQ creation

So we need to be careful with enabling priorities, I suspect. Hopefully
that's a standalone case.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-30 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-29 19:12 block and nvme polling improvements V2 Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:12 ` [PATCH 01/13] block: move queues types to the block layer Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:50   ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-29 19:50     ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30  7:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  7:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 15:20       ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 15:20         ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 15:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 15:21           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 20:19   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:19     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:25     ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-29 20:25       ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30  8:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  8:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 14:40       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-30 14:40         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-30 15:20       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2018-11-30 15:20         ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-29 19:12 ` [PATCH 02/13] nvme-pci: use atomic bitops to mark a queue enabled Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 20:19   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:19     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 03/13] nvme-pci: cleanup SQ allocation a bit Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 20:22   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:22     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 04/13] nvme-pci: only allow polling with separate poll queues Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 05/13] nvme-pci: consolidate code for polling non-dedicated queues Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 06/13] nvme-pci: refactor nvme_disable_io_queues Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 20:37   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:37     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 07/13] nvme-pci: don't poll from irq context when deleting queues Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 20:36   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 20:36     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-30  8:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  8:08       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 14:45       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-30 14:45         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 08/13] nvme-pci: remove the CQ lock for interrupt driven queues Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 21:08   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-29 21:08     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-30  8:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30  8:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 09/13] nvme-rdma: remove I/O polling support Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 10/13] nvme-mpath: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] block: remove ->poll_fn Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 12/13] block: only allow polling if a poll queue_map exists Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13 ` [PATCH 13/13] block: enable polling by default if a poll map is initalized Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 19:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-12-02 16:46 block and nvme polling improvements V3 Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-02 16:46 ` [PATCH 01/13] block: move queues types to the block layer Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-02 16:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-04  0:49   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-12-04  0:49     ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-12-04 15:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-04 15:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-04 17:08       ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-12-04 17:08         ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-11-21 16:23 block and nvme polling improvements Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-21 16:23 ` [PATCH 01/13] block: move queues types to the block layer Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-21 16:23   ` Christoph Hellwig

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