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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Richard Purdie" <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: "Robert Jarzmik" <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"Haojian Zhuang" <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ales Bardorfer" <ales@i-tech.si>,
	"Ales Snuparek" <snuparek@atlas.cz>,
	"Alex Osborne" <ato@meshy.org>,
	"Alex Osborne" <bobofdoom@gmail.com>,
	"Dirk Opfer" <dirk@opfer-online.de>, "Ian Molton" <spyro@f2s.com>,
	"Lennert Buytenhek" <kernel@wantstofly.org>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	"Michael Petchkovsky" <mkpetch@internode.on.net>,
	"Nick Bane" <nick@cecomputing.co.uk>,
	"Paul Parsons" <lost.distance@yahoo.com>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>,
	"Sergey Lapin" <slapin@ossfans.org>,
	"Tomas Cech" <sleep_walker@suse.cz>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linusw@kernel.org>,
	"Marc Zyngier" <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 10:47:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0690759c-8e74-429e-a3f9-c20aaac9c92f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bec242f6f69c87f99309ed5c20e2f0be2b533c7.camel@linuxfoundation.org>

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 23:45, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 23:16 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 18:05, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 17:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>> 
>> In the long run, I expect we will remove all the remaining
>> legacy boardfiles and only keep the DT support. Ideally
>> if someone is motivated to convert spitz to DT, supporting
>> corgi the same way is also easy.
>
> Personally, I'm not that interested in tosa (or poodle/collie).
>
> The other zaurus devices are interesting for me as I know the platform,
> they have qemu emulation, there are set of devices which are similar
> but also have differences and there were one of the original targets
> for OpenEmbedded and Yocto Project. I did quite a bit of work to get
> one kernel which could run on multiple devices, as best you could at
> the time! I'd actually forgotten about the qemu emulation.
>
> There is a need for better automated testing around DT in OE/YP and
> this is making me wonder about a few potential ideas.

Ok

> Is there any conversion to DT you can easily point at as an example of
> the kinds of changes needed?

Robert Jarzmik and Daniel Mack worked on the conversion of the
PXA platform to DT. Daniel contributed the port for Raumfeld,
which should be complete, while Robert worked on more driver
conversions and mentioned[1] that he had converted additional
boards in the past but did not merge it upstream. They
can probably point you to whatever is missing. I would expect
the generic PXA drivers (spi, mmc, nand, i2c, audio, fb, gpio,
keypad) to  basically work work a correct DT description,
while the machine specific drivers (scoop and pcmcia mainly)
will need DT support in the driver.

In addition, Linus Walleij and Marc Zyngier have both expressed
interest in keeping sa1100 (h3600, collie, assabet, jornada720)
alive, but those don't have any DT support yet and require
much more work. Also note that while you can now build a kernel
that includes support for all little-endian ARMv4T and ARMv5
machines, StrongARM machine still require a separate kernel
build.

     Arnd

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/803778517.2279639.1667493436959.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02aub.pom.fr.intraorange/

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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Richard Purdie" <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: "Robert Jarzmik" <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"Haojian Zhuang" <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ales Bardorfer" <ales@i-tech.si>,
	"Ales Snuparek" <snuparek@atlas.cz>,
	"Alex Osborne" <ato@meshy.org>,
	"Alex Osborne" <bobofdoom@gmail.com>,
	"Dirk Opfer" <dirk@opfer-online.de>, "Ian Molton" <spyro@f2s.com>,
	"Lennert Buytenhek" <kernel@wantstofly.org>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	"Michael Petchkovsky" <mkpetch@internode.on.net>,
	"Nick Bane" <nick@cecomputing.co.uk>,
	"Paul Parsons" <lost.distance@yahoo.com>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>,
	"Sergey Lapin" <slapin@ossfans.org>,
	"Tomas Cech" <sleep_walker@suse.cz>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linusw@kernel.org>,
	"Marc Zyngier" <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 10:47:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0690759c-8e74-429e-a3f9-c20aaac9c92f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bec242f6f69c87f99309ed5c20e2f0be2b533c7.camel@linuxfoundation.org>

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 23:45, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 23:16 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, at 18:05, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2023-01-05 at 17:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>> 
>> In the long run, I expect we will remove all the remaining
>> legacy boardfiles and only keep the DT support. Ideally
>> if someone is motivated to convert spitz to DT, supporting
>> corgi the same way is also easy.
>
> Personally, I'm not that interested in tosa (or poodle/collie).
>
> The other zaurus devices are interesting for me as I know the platform,
> they have qemu emulation, there are set of devices which are similar
> but also have differences and there were one of the original targets
> for OpenEmbedded and Yocto Project. I did quite a bit of work to get
> one kernel which could run on multiple devices, as best you could at
> the time! I'd actually forgotten about the qemu emulation.
>
> There is a need for better automated testing around DT in OE/YP and
> this is making me wonder about a few potential ideas.

Ok

> Is there any conversion to DT you can easily point at as an example of
> the kinds of changes needed?

Robert Jarzmik and Daniel Mack worked on the conversion of the
PXA platform to DT. Daniel contributed the port for Raumfeld,
which should be complete, while Robert worked on more driver
conversions and mentioned[1] that he had converted additional
boards in the past but did not merge it upstream. They
can probably point you to whatever is missing. I would expect
the generic PXA drivers (spi, mmc, nand, i2c, audio, fb, gpio,
keypad) to  basically work work a correct DT description,
while the machine specific drivers (scoop and pcmcia mainly)
will need DT support in the driver.

In addition, Linus Walleij and Marc Zyngier have both expressed
interest in keeping sa1100 (h3600, collie, assabet, jornada720)
alive, but those don't have any DT support yet and require
much more work. Also note that while you can now build a kernel
that includes support for all little-endian ARMv4T and ARMv5
machines, StrongARM machine still require a separate kernel
build.

     Arnd

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/803778517.2279639.1667493436959.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02aub.pom.fr.intraorange/

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2023-01-05 13:45 [PATCH v2 00/27] ARM: pxa: remove all unused boards&drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 01/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused board files Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:50   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-05 15:50     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-05 17:05     ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 17:05       ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 22:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 22:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 22:45         ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-05 22:45           ` Richard Purdie
2023-01-06  9:47           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-01-06  9:47             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 10:06             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-06 10:06               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08  9:06               ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08  9:06                 ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08 20:36               ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-08 20:36                 ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-08 21:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:05                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:12                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08 21:12                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-01-08 21:20                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 21:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 02/27] ARM: pxa: remove irda leftover Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 03/27] ARM: pxa: remove unused pxa3xx-ulpi Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 14:55     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 13:45 ` [PATCH 04/27] ARM: pxa: drop pxa310/pxa320/pxa93x support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:59   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 14:59     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-06  2:19   ` Viresh Kumar
2023-01-06  2:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-01-08  8:49   ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08  8:49     ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-08 13:40     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-08 13:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 14:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 14:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-12 17:37       ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-12 17:37         ` Robert Jarzmik
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 05/27] ARM: pxa: prune unused device support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 06/27] power: remove z2_battery driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:35   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:35     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 07/27] power: remove tosa_battery driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:42   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:42     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 17:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 17:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 08/27] ata: remove palmld pata driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06  6:25   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-06  6:25     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-11 17:37   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2023-01-11 17:37     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 09/27] backlight: remove pxa tosa support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-01-05 14:23     ` Daniel Thompson
2023-01-20 14:00   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:00     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 10/27] input: remove pxa930_trkball driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 11/27] input: remove pxa930_rotary keyboard driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 12/27] input: remove zylonite touchscreen driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 13/27] pcmcia: remove unused pxa/sa1100 drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 14/27] ASoC: PXA: make SND_PXA2XX_SOC_AC97 user-selectable Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/27] ASoC: pxa: remove unused board support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-10 13:58   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-10 13:58     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-10 13:58     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 16/27] power: remove pda_power supply driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 16:39   ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 16:39     ` Sebastian Reichel
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 17/27] rtc: remove v3020 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 18/27] mfd: remove toshiba tmio drivers Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:55   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:55     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 19/27] mfd: remove ucb1400 support Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:18   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:18     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:18     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:57       ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:57         ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:57         ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 20/27] mtd: remove tmio_nand driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-07 15:41   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-07 15:41     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-07 15:41     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 21/27] mmc: remove tmio_mmc driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:01   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:01     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-16 10:48       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-16 10:48         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-01-05 15:14   ` Wolfram Sang
2023-01-05 15:14     ` Wolfram Sang
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 22/27] fbdev: remove tmiofb driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06  9:47   ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06  9:47     ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06  9:47     ` Helge Deller
2023-01-06 11:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 11:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 11:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 23/27] fbdev: remove w100fb driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 24/27] leds: remove asic3 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:02   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:02     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 25/27] usb: remove ohci-tmio driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 14:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 14:55     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 15:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 15:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 26/27] w1: remove ds1wm driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46 ` [PATCH 27/27] mfd: remove htc-pasic3 driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-05 13:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 14:09   ` Lee Jones
2023-01-20 14:09     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-12 20:01 ` (subset) [PATCH v2 00/27] ARM: pxa: remove all unused boards&drivers Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-12 20:01   ` Mark Brown

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