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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
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	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
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	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Srini Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
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	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/18] PCI/pwrctl: add a power control driver for WCN7850
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 22:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17bbd9ae-0282-430e-947b-e6fb08c53af7@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea08a286-ff53-4d58-ae41-38cca151508c@sirena.org.uk>

On 20.02.2024 13:47, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:22:42PM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:50 PM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:32:11PM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> 
>>>> +static struct pci_pwrctl_wcn7850_vreg pci_pwrctl_wcn7850_vregs[] = {
>>>> +     {
>>>> +             .name = "vdd",
>>>> +             .load_uA = 16000,
>>>> +     },
> 
>>> I know a bunch of the QC stuff includes these load numbers but are they
>>> actually doing anything constructive?  It keeps coming up that they're
>>> causing a bunch of work and it's not clear that they have any great
>>> effect on modern systems.
> 
>> Yes, we have what is called a high-power mode and a low-power mode in
>> regulators and these values are used to determine which one to use.
> 
> Are you *sure* this actually happens (and that the regulators don't
> figure it out by themselves), especially given that the consumers are
> just specifying the load once rather than varying it dynamically at
> runtime which is supposed to be the use case for this API?  This API is
> intended to be used dynamically, if the regulator always needs to be in
> a particular mode just configure that statically.

*AFAIU*

The regulators aggregate the requested current (there may be
multiple consumers) and then it's decided if it's high enough
to jump into HPM.

Konrad


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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Srini Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/18] PCI/pwrctl: add a power control driver for WCN7850
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 22:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17bbd9ae-0282-430e-947b-e6fb08c53af7@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea08a286-ff53-4d58-ae41-38cca151508c@sirena.org.uk>

On 20.02.2024 13:47, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:22:42PM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:50 PM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:32:11PM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> 
>>>> +static struct pci_pwrctl_wcn7850_vreg pci_pwrctl_wcn7850_vregs[] = {
>>>> +     {
>>>> +             .name = "vdd",
>>>> +             .load_uA = 16000,
>>>> +     },
> 
>>> I know a bunch of the QC stuff includes these load numbers but are they
>>> actually doing anything constructive?  It keeps coming up that they're
>>> causing a bunch of work and it's not clear that they have any great
>>> effect on modern systems.
> 
>> Yes, we have what is called a high-power mode and a low-power mode in
>> regulators and these values are used to determine which one to use.
> 
> Are you *sure* this actually happens (and that the regulators don't
> figure it out by themselves), especially given that the consumers are
> just specifying the load once rather than varying it dynamically at
> runtime which is supposed to be the use case for this API?  This API is
> intended to be used dynamically, if the regulator always needs to be in
> a particular mode just configure that statically.

*AFAIU*

The regulators aggregate the requested current (there may be
multiple consumers) and then it's decided if it's high enough
to jump into HPM.

Konrad


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Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-16 20:31 [PATCH v5 00/18] power: sequencing: implement the subsystem and add first users Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:31 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:31 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] of: Add cleanup.h based auto release via __free(device_node) markings Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:31   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:36   ` power: sequencing: implement the subsystem and add first users bluez.test.bot
2024-02-16 20:31 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] arm64: defconfig: enable ath12k as a module Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:31   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19  7:31   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:31     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:56     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19  7:56       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] dt-bindings: regulator: describe the PMU module of the QCA6390 package Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 15:48   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-17 15:48     ` Mark Brown
2024-02-17 18:32     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 18:32       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 20:43       ` Mark Brown
2024-02-17 20:43         ` Mark Brown
2024-02-19  7:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:32         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19 12:53         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 12:53           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 21:23           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19 21:23             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] dt-bindings: net: bluetooth: qualcomm: describe regulators for QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19  7:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] dt-bindings: new: wireless: qcom,ath11k: describe the ath11k on QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] dt-bindings: new: wireless: describe the ath12k PCI module Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17  6:34   ` Kalle Valo
2024-02-17  6:34     ` Kalle Valo
2024-02-17 18:30     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 18:30       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 20:02       ` Jeff Johnson
2024-02-17 20:02         ` Jeff Johnson
2024-02-19  7:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  7:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-22 23:56   ` Rob Herring
2024-02-22 23:56     ` Rob Herring
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8550-qrd: add the Wifi node Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8650-qrd: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 23:09   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-16 23:09     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-17 18:53     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 18:53       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] arm64: dts: qcom: qrb5165-rb5: model the PMU of the QCA6391 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 18:03   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-19 18:03     ` Mark Brown
2024-02-19 18:48     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 18:48       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 19:59       ` Mark Brown
2024-02-19 19:59         ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 11:16         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 11:16           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 13:31           ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 13:31             ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 13:38             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 13:38               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 13:48               ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 13:48                 ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 13:51                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 13:51                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 14:10                   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 14:10                     ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 16:30           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-20 16:30             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-20 17:53             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 17:53               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 18:11               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-20 18:11                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] PCI: hold the rescan mutex when scanning for the first time Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] PCI/pwrctl: reuse the OF node for power controlled devices Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] PCI/pwrctl: create platform devices for child OF nodes of the port node Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] PCI/pwrctl: add PCI power control core code Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] PCI/pwrctl: add a power control driver for WCN7850 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-18 12:25   ` kernel test robot
2024-02-19 17:49   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-19 17:49     ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 11:22     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 11:22       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-20 12:47       ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 12:47         ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 21:21         ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2024-02-20 21:21           ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-20 23:44           ` Mark Brown
2024-02-20 23:44             ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22  9:22             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22  9:22               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 12:21               ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22 12:21                 ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22 12:26                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 12:26                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 13:15                   ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22 13:15                     ` Mark Brown
2024-02-22 13:26                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 13:26                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] power: sequencing: implement the pwrseq core Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-18 16:26   ` kernel test robot
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] power: pwrseq: add a driver for the QCA6390 PMU module Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 23:17   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-16 23:17     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-17 19:09     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-17 19:09       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] Bluetooth: qca: use the power sequencer for QCA6390 Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] PCI/pwrctl: add a PCI power control driver for power sequenced devices Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-16 20:32   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-18 12:53 ` [PATCH v5 00/18] power: sequencing: implement the subsystem and add first users Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-18 12:53   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19  8:14   ` Neil Armstrong
2024-02-19  8:14     ` Neil Armstrong
2024-02-19  9:22     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19  9:22       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19  9:42       ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-19  9:42         ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-19 10:26         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19 10:26           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19 12:23           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 12:23             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-19 12:33             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19 12:33               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19 17:18               ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-19 17:18                 ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-19 22:21                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-19 22:21                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-22 11:00                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 11:00                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 11:26                     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-22 11:26                       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-22 12:27                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 12:27                         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 12:47                         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-22 12:47                           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-22 12:50                           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 12:50                             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-02-22 13:46                             ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-22 13:46                               ` neil.armstrong
2024-02-24  8:52                             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-24  8:52                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-02-19  8:16 ` Neil Armstrong
2024-02-19  8:16   ` Neil Armstrong
2024-03-05 12:50 ` Amit Pundir
2024-03-05 12:50   ` Amit Pundir

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