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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] qemu: MSI-X support functions
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:07:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906101507.39823.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090610094604.GD6844@redhat.com>

> > > Note that platform must set a flag to declare MSI supported.
> > > For PC this will be set by APIC.
> >
> > This sounds wrong. The device shouldn't know or care whether the system
> > has a MSI capable interrupt controller. That's for the guest OS to figure
> > out.
>
> You are right of course. In theory there's nothing that breaks if I
> set this flag to on, on all platforms. OTOH if qemu emulates some
> controller incorrectly, guest might misdetect MSI support in the
> controller, and things will break horribly.
>
> It seems safer to have a flag that can be enabled by people
> that know about a specific platform.

No. The solution is to fix whatever is broken.

If we really need to avoid MSI-X capable devices then that should be done 
explicity per-device. i.e. you have a different virtio-net device that does 
not use MSI-X.

Paul

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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] qemu: MSI-X support functions
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:07:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906101507.39823.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090610094604.GD6844@redhat.com>

> > > Note that platform must set a flag to declare MSI supported.
> > > For PC this will be set by APIC.
> >
> > This sounds wrong. The device shouldn't know or care whether the system
> > has a MSI capable interrupt controller. That's for the guest OS to figure
> > out.
>
> You are right of course. In theory there's nothing that breaks if I
> set this flag to on, on all platforms. OTOH if qemu emulates some
> controller incorrectly, guest might misdetect MSI support in the
> controller, and things will break horribly.
>
> It seems safer to have a flag that can be enabled by people
> that know about a specific platform.

No. The solution is to fix whatever is broken.

If we really need to avoid MSI-X capable devices then that should be done 
explicity per-device. i.e. you have a different virtio-net device that does 
not use MSI-X.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-10 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1243253205.git.mst@redhat.com>
2009-05-25 12:12 ` [PATCHv2] qemu: make default_write_config use mask table Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:24 ` [PATCH 01/11] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] qemu: capability bits in pci save/restore Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:49   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-26  8:49     ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-26  9:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  9:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  9:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:49   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-26  9:30   ` [PATCH] qemu: fix pci_find_capability for multiple caps Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  9:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  9:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] qemu: helper routines for pci access Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  2:33   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-26  2:33     ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-26  6:41     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  6:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:07       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-26  8:07         ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-26  8:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:49           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  8:07       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-26  6:41     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  2:33   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] qemu: MSI-X support functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 23:19   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-09 23:19     ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10  9:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10  9:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10  9:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:07       ` Paul Brook [this message]
2009-06-10 14:07         ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 14:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:25           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:39           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 14:39             ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 14:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:47               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 15:15               ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 15:15                 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 15:52                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 15:52                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 15:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:08                   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 16:08                     ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 16:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:26                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:46                       ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 16:46                         ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 17:03                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 17:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 17:30                           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 17:30                           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 17:30                             ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 18:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 18:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 18:07                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 19:04                               ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 19:04                                 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-11  8:29                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-11  8:29                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-11  8:29                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 19:04                               ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 17:03                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:46                       ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 16:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 16:08                   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 15:15               ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 14:39           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 14:07       ` Paul Brook
2009-06-09 23:19   ` Paul Brook
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] qemu: add flag to disable MSI-X by default Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] qemu: minimal MSI/MSI-X implementation for PC Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` [PATCH 08/11] qemu: add support for resizing regions Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` [PATCH 09/11] qemu: virtio support for many interrupt vectors Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` [PATCH 10/11] qemu: MSI-X support in virtio PCI Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] qemu: request 3 vectors in virtio-net Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 12:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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