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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] PCI: Runtime power management
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:44:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908152344.46898.rjw__44422.701400663$1250372699$gmane$org@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090815212756.GA31784@srcf.ucam.org>

On Saturday 15 August 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:21:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > I can even imagine a scenario where this setting might be useful, like when
> > we don't want a network adapter to be woken up from the outside.
> 
> I think in that case we'd probably just want the interface to be downed? 
> Some of this is going to require device-specific policy, I think - for 
> the network case we probably want something in between IF_RUNNING and 
> IF_DOWN (IF_CARRIER, perhaps) that indicates that we want the PHY to be 
> powered. Pushing this out to sysfs would mean we'd have a consistent 
> interface but varying semantics, and I'm not convinced that's an 
> especially helpful interface.

I'm not disagreeing with that.

At this point I'd like to know the Alan's opinion.  I would gladly use the
'runtime_forbidden' flag only, but if we overlook something now, it's going
to be difficult to fix later.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-15 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-08 14:25 [PATCH] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 14) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-09 21:13 ` [PATCH update] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 15) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-09 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 10:37   ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-12 15:47     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-12 15:47     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-12 20:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 20:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 10:37   ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-13  0:29   ` [RFC] PCI: Runtime power management Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13  0:29   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13  0:35     ` [RFC] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 12:16       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 12:16       ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 12:30         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 12:30         ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 14:26           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 14:26           ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 21:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 21:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 15:22       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-13 15:22       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-13 21:47         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 21:47         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13  0:35     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 15:17     ` [RFC] PCI: Runtime power management Alan Stern
2009-08-13 21:47       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 12:30         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 12:30         ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 14:43           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 14:43           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-08-14 17:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:05             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:13               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 19:01                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 19:01                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 20:05             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 22:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 14:18                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 14:18                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 15:53                   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-15 15:53                   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-08-15 20:54                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 20:54                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 20:58                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 20:58                       ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 21:21                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 21:21                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 21:27                           ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 21:44                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-08-15 21:44                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-16 16:09                               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-16 16:09                               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-15 21:27                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-16 15:57                           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-16 15:57                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-08-16 16:04                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-16 16:04                             ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-16 15:50                       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-16 15:50                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-08-14 22:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 20:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 21:47       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 15:17     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 17:37     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-08-14 17:37     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-08-14 19:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 19:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 21:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 22:30       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 22:30       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 14:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 15:24           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 15:24           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 14:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 21:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 20:56   ` [PATCH update 2x] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 16) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 21:03     ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-13 21:03     ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-13 21:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 21:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14  9:08     ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-14 17:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14  9:08     ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-14 17:25     ` [PATCH update 3x] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 17) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:25     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 20:56   ` [PATCH update 2x] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 16) Rafael J. Wysocki

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