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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:00:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102072300.03986.rjw__44477.3864037872$1297116153$gmane$org@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110207214732.GA24703@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On Monday, February 07, 2011, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:15:59PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, February 07, 2011, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yeah, but some people seem very keen on removing the pointers to the PM
> > > ops entirely when CONFIG_PM is disabled which means that you end up with
> > > varying idioms for what you do with the PM ops as stuff gets ifdefed
> > > out.  Then again I'm not sure anything would make those people any
> > > happier.
> > 
> > I really think we should do things that makes sense rather that worry about
> > who's going to like or dislike it (except for Linus maybe, but he tends to like
> > things that make sense anyway).  At this point I think the change I suggested
> > makes sense, because it (a) simplifies things and (b) follows the quite common
> > practice which is to make PM callbacks depend on CONFIG_PM.
> 
> Many people make these callback dependent on PM not because it makes
> much sense but because it is possible to do so. However, aside of
> randconfig compile testing, nobody really tests drivers that implement
> PM in the !CONFIG_PM setting.

That I can agree with, but I'm not sure whether it is an argument against
the patch I've just posted or for it?

Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-07 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 12:22 [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 13:26   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 13:26   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 13:09   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 13:09   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:13   ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:13   ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:18   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:18     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:44     ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:44     ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:44       ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:50       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:50       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:50         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:00           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:00           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:10           ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:10           ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:10             ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19             ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19             ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19               ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:21               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:21               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:21                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:36                 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36                 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36                   ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36                   ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:49                   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:49                   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:49                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:16                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  1:17                     ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08  1:17                     ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08  1:17                       ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 11:18                         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:18   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 19:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:30   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:30   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:46     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:46     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 20:18       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 20:18       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:00             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 22:23               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:23               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 23:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 23:05                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  0:50                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08  0:50                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08  9:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  9:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 16:48                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-08 16:48                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-07 22:00             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-02-07 21:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08 12:12           ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:12           ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:21           ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 12:21           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 21:18             ` [PATCH 0/5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:20               ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPI / PM: Move references to pm_flags into sleep.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 23:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09  0:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09  0:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09  1:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09  1:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 21:20               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 2/5] PM: Make CONFIG_PM depend on (CONFIG_PM_SLEEP || CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 3/5] PM: Reorder power management Kconfig options Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22               ` [PATCH 4/5] PM: Replace CONFIG_PM_OPS with CONFIG_PM Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23               ` [PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up Kconfig dependencies Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 23:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-10 23:32                 ` [Updated][PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up PM_TRACE dependencies and drop unnecessary Kconfig option Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 23:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:35             ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35             ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35               ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 11:41               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:41               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 17:07                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 17:07                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 18:31                   ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:31                   ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00                       ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 19:25                         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:53                           ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:53                           ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:59                             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:59                             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:09                               ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:09                               ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:10                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:10                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:25                         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00                       ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35             ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09  2:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-09  2:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 23:35             ` Tim Bird
2011-02-07 19:14 ` [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  2:52 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08  2:52 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08  2:52   ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 14:15   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:15   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-07 12:22 Mark Brown

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