From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:00:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikw7j5Q7CGZK=Xbcgubt9LYBGiXf01wQ4nbg8NR@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110207145031.GL10564@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:50, Mark Brown
<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 01:44:32AM +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:18:29 +0000 Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
>
>> > Do you mean that these systems require CONFIG_PM be turned off, or just
>> > that people tend not to turn it on? If the latter would you expect any
>> > ill effects from doing so?
>
>> I don't know the answer to either question without testing. All I am
>> saying is that currently the default for CONFIG_PM is "off" and you are
>> changing it to be "on" and there may not have been any testing done of
>> that in some situations. We don't know where it was explicitly
>> turned off any more since we shrank our defconfig files (which was done
>> automatically) ... since it is off by default, it doesn't need to be
>> mentioned in a defconfig unless it needs to be turned on.
>
> My suspicion would be that it'll have been turned off by someone hitting
> return through a config upgrade rather than through deliberate effort.
> On the other hand if it is essential for some machines to have it
> disabled they probably want to have somethnig in Kconfig.
$ git grep "CONFIG_PM is not set"
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d^ -- arch/ | wc -l
256
$
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d is the commit that introduced
savedefconfig, so that's a safe revision with untrimmed defconfigs.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:00:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikw7j5Q7CGZK=Xbcgubt9LYBGiXf01wQ4nbg8NR@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110207145031.GL10564@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:50, Mark Brown
<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 01:44:32AM +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:18:29 +0000 Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfson=
micro.com> wrote:
>
>> > Do you mean that these systems require CONFIG_PM be turned off, or jus=
t
>> > that people tend not to turn it on? =C2=A0If the latter would you expe=
ct any
>> > ill effects from doing so?
>
>> I don't know the answer to either question without testing. =C2=A0All I =
am
>> saying is that currently the default for CONFIG_PM is "off" and you are
>> changing it to be "on" and there may not have been any testing done of
>> that in some situations. =C2=A0 We don't know where it was explicitly
>> turned off any more since we shrank our defconfig files (which was done
>> automatically) ... since it is off by default, it doesn't need to be
>> mentioned in a defconfig unless it needs to be turned on.
>
> My suspicion would be that it'll have been turned off by someone hitting
> return through a config upgrade rather than through deliberate effort.
> On the other hand if it is essential for some machines to have it
> disabled they probably want to have somethnig in Kconfig.
$ git grep "CONFIG_PM is not set"
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d^ -- arch/ | wc -l
256
$
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d is the commit that introduced
savedefconfig, so that's a safe revision with untrimmed defconfigs.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k=
.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu=
t
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t=
hat.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 -- Linus Torvalds
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:00:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikw7j5Q7CGZK=Xbcgubt9LYBGiXf01wQ4nbg8NR@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110207145031.GL10564@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:50, Mark Brown
<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 01:44:32AM +1100, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:18:29 +0000 Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
>
>> > Do you mean that these systems require CONFIG_PM be turned off, or just
>> > that people tend not to turn it on? If the latter would you expect any
>> > ill effects from doing so?
>
>> I don't know the answer to either question without testing. All I am
>> saying is that currently the default for CONFIG_PM is "off" and you are
>> changing it to be "on" and there may not have been any testing done of
>> that in some situations. We don't know where it was explicitly
>> turned off any more since we shrank our defconfig files (which was done
>> automatically) ... since it is off by default, it doesn't need to be
>> mentioned in a defconfig unless it needs to be turned on.
>
> My suspicion would be that it'll have been turned off by someone hitting
> return through a config upgrade rather than through deliberate effort.
> On the other hand if it is essential for some machines to have it
> disabled they probably want to have somethnig in Kconfig.
$ git grep "CONFIG_PM is not set"
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d^ -- arch/ | wc -l
256
$
7cf3d73b4360e91b14326632ab1aeda4cb26308d is the commit that introduced
savedefconfig, so that's a safe revision with untrimmed defconfigs.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-07 12:22 [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 13:26 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 13:26 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 13:09 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 13:09 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2011-02-07 15:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:21 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:21 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:21 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:36 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:36 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 1:17 ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 1:17 ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 1:17 ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 11:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 11:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 11:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 19:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:30 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:30 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 20:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 20:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 22:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 0:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08 0:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08 9:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 9:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 16:48 ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-08 16:48 ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-07 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08 12:12 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:12 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:21 ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 12:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 21:18 ` [PATCH 0/5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPI / PM: Move references to pm_flags into sleep.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09 0:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 0:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 1:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09 1:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/5] PM: Make CONFIG_PM depend on (CONFIG_PM_SLEEP || CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21 ` [PATCH 3/5] PM: Reorder power management Kconfig options Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] PM: Replace CONFIG_PM_OPS with CONFIG_PM Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23 ` [PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up Kconfig dependencies Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-10 23:32 ` [Updated][PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up PM_TRACE dependencies and drop unnecessary Kconfig option Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-10 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:35 ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 11:41 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:41 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 18:31 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:31 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:40 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 18:40 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 19:25 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:53 ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:53 ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:59 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:59 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:25 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 23:35 ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 2:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-09 2:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08 23:35 ` Tim Bird
2011-02-07 19:14 ` [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 2:52 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 2:52 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 2:52 ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-07 12:22 Mark Brown
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