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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@am.sony.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Yong Zhang <yong.zhang0@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] "sched: Remove rq->lock from the first half of ttwu()" locks up on ARM
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:50:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526125007.GA27083@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526123137.GG24876@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>


* Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 02:26:23PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Sort this by reverting to the old behaviour for this situation 
> > > and perform a full remote wake-up.
> > 
> > Btw., ARM should consider switching most of its subarchitectures 
> > to !__ARCH_WANT_INTERRUPTS_ON_CTXSW - enabling irqs during 
> > context switches is silly and now expensive as well.
> 
> Not going to happen.  The reason we do it is because most of the 
> CPUs have to (slowly) flush their caches during switch_mm(), and to 
> have IRQs off over the cache flush means that we lose IRQs.

How much time does that take on contemporary ARM hardware, typically 
(and worst-case)?

Thanks,

	Ingo

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From: mingo@elte.hu (Ingo Molnar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [BUG] "sched: Remove rq->lock from the first half of ttwu()" locks up on ARM
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:50:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526125007.GA27083@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526123137.GG24876@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>


* Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 02:26:23PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Sort this by reverting to the old behaviour for this situation 
> > > and perform a full remote wake-up.
> > 
> > Btw., ARM should consider switching most of its subarchitectures 
> > to !__ARCH_WANT_INTERRUPTS_ON_CTXSW - enabling irqs during 
> > context switches is silly and now expensive as well.
> 
> Not going to happen.  The reason we do it is because most of the 
> CPUs have to (slowly) flush their caches during switch_mm(), and to 
> have IRQs off over the cache flush means that we lose IRQs.

How much time does that take on contemporary ARM hardware, typically 
(and worst-case)?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-26 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-24 18:13 [BUG] "sched: Remove rq->lock from the first half of ttwu()" locks up on ARM Marc Zyngier
2011-05-24 18:13 ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-24 21:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-24 21:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-24 21:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 21:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 12:23     ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-25 12:23       ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-25 17:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-25 17:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-25 21:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-25 21:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26  7:29       ` Yong Zhang
2011-05-26  7:29         ` Yong Zhang
2011-05-26 10:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 10:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 11:02           ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 11:02             ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 11:32             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 11:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 12:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 12:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 12:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 12:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 12:31                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-26 12:31                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-26 12:37                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 12:37                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 12:50                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-26 12:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 13:36                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-26 13:36                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-26 14:45                       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-26 14:45                         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-27 12:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:55                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-27 17:55                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-27 19:41                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-05-27 19:41                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-05-27 20:52                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-27 20:52                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-28 13:13                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-28 13:13                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 11:08                               ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 11:08                                 ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 13:22                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 13:22                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 13:37                                   ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 13:37                                     ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 13:52                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 13:52                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 14:08                                       ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 14:08                                         ` Michal Simek
2011-05-31 14:29                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 14:29                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-29 10:21                             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29 10:21                               ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29 10:26                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-29 10:26                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-29 12:01                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29 12:01                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29 13:19                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-29 13:19                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-29 21:21                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29 21:21                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29  9:51                           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-29  9:51                             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-06-06 10:29                           ` Pavel Machek
2011-06-06 10:29                             ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 14:56                 ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 14:56                   ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 15:45                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 15:45                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 15:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 15:59                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 16:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 16:09                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 16:20                       ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 16:20                         ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 16:32                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 16:32                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-27  8:01                           ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-27  8:01                             ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 16:22                       ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 16:22                         ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 17:04                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 17:04                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 17:17                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 17:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 17:23                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 17:23                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 17:49                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 17:49                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-27  7:01                             ` Yong Zhang
2011-05-27  7:01                               ` Yong Zhang
2011-05-27 15:23                             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-05-27 15:23                               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-05-27 15:29                               ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-27 15:29                                 ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-27 15:30                                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-05-27 15:30                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar

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