From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 01:21:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130908052107.GA15610@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s3kow9dooPzK6iD8p2LAgt1mtFuaNsVhkJHrqe4D+8xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 12:09:34AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > It's not if you understand the difference between merge-then-commit and
> > commit-then-merge. But for a clueless user who has been told "replace
> > svn commit" with "git commit && git push" and replace "svn update" with
> > "git pull", it is quite similar.
>
> Well, yeah, but if they are so clueless they have to be told what to
> do, they can be told to do 'git pull --merge' instead, no?
I think it's fine to tell them to do "git pull --merge". What I'd worry
more about is somebody who is suddenly presented with the choice between
"--rebase" and "--merge" and doesn't know which to choose. We've created a
cognitive load on the user, and even more load if they choose --rebase
and don't quite understand what it means.
The current warning message in jc/pull-training-wheel is quite neutral
between the two options. Perhaps we should lean more towards merging?
I guess that works against John's case, though, which is clueless people
working on a project that _does_ care about the shape of history. At
least they would have to stop and think for a moment, though, which
might help (and maybe convince them to ask more clueful project
members). I don't know.
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-08 5:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-31 22:38 [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] merge: simplify ff-only option Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] t: replace pulls with merges Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] pull: reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reject " Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 21:50 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 22:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 22:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 8:10 ` John Keeping
2013-09-04 9:25 ` Jeff King
2013-09-04 10:16 ` John Keeping
2013-09-08 2:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:18 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 4:37 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:43 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 5:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 5:21 ` Jeff King [this message]
2013-09-08 6:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 6:54 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 7:15 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 7:50 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 8:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 20:17 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 22:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:03 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:04 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 17:26 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-08 22:38 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:01 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09 0:29 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:38 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09 7:18 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 18:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 19:52 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 20:24 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:44 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:10 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 21:48 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-09 20:50 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 20:53 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:34 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-09 23:02 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10 8:08 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-10 21:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 23:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10 8:26 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-11 10:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-11 11:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-13 0:55 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 16:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 17:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 22:08 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-04 22:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 8:06 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 19:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 19:26 ` John Keeping
2013-09-06 21:41 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-06 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-07 11:07 ` John Keeping
2013-09-08 2:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 2:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 8:01 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 8:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 8:42 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 8:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:02 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 10:39 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 11:01 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 11:38 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 12:37 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 15:20 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-05 21:30 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 23:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 23:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 2:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 6:17 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 18:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 20:05 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 22:46 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 22:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 23:11 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-05 13:31 ` Greg Troxel
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