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From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: "John Keeping" <john@keeping.me.uk>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>, <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Krey" <a.krey@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:02:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5E98A1684FFB4A7D93A17A609F92A1B3@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAMP44s1ZjtVdj1wys_7VkBrmvGAkh9cfOpZ_22aVONMH3GdcRg@mail.gmail.com

From: "Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:49 AM
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> 
> wrote:
>
>> The 'problem' is (would be) that I don't yet know that I would need 
>> the
>> --onto pu until I discover (how?) that the default rebase would 
>> result in
>> conflicts.
>
> I don't see what that has to do with an invocation of 'git rebase'
> without arguments, and @{tail}.

>         There's absolutely no way Git can
> figure out for you which is the appropriate place for you to rebase
> onto.
.. which was my point. I may not have explained it that well.

Given that Git can't figure it out, we should stop trying in such cases.

>
> However, it shouldn't be too difficult to write a tool that checks
> multiple commits and tells you on top of which ones a rebase could
> work, but I don't think 'git rebase' is the right place.

That's an SOS approach (Success Oriented Script)[1] that presumes the 
user is already better than they are - The Kruger Dunning paper [2] 
offers some insight into capability misconceptions (at all levels).

--
regards

Philip
--
[1] in the original it was a "Success Oriented Schedule" - one of those 
plans that hopeful managers put together on late running projects that 
amount to wishful thinking that hopefully garners them enough time to 
make a little progress and update their 'success stories'.
[2] http://dx.doi.org/10.1111%2F1467-8721.01235 "Why People Fail to 
Recognize Their Own Incompetence". Though the corollaries (People fail 
to recognise their own skills, and hence they/we mishandle our 
communications) are just as (IMHO more) important. 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-08 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-31 22:38 [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] merge: simplify ff-only option Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] t: replace pulls with merges Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] pull: reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reject " Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 21:50   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 22:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 22:59       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04  8:10       ` John Keeping
2013-09-04  9:25         ` Jeff King
2013-09-04 10:16           ` John Keeping
2013-09-08  2:52           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  4:18             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  4:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  4:43                 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  5:09                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  5:21                     ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  6:17                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  6:54                         ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  7:15                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  7:50                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08  8:43                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 20:17                               ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 22:59                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:03                           ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:04                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 17:26                 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-08 22:38                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:01                     ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09  0:29                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:36                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09  0:38                           ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09  7:18                         ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 18:47                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 19:52                             ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 20:24                               ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:44                                 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:10                                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 21:48                                   ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-09 20:50                                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 20:53                                   ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:34                                     ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-09 23:02                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10  8:08                                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:47                             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-10 21:56                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 23:17                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10  8:26                             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-11 10:53                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-11 11:38                                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-13  0:55                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 16:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 17:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 22:08           ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-04 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05  8:06               ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 19:18                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 19:26                   ` John Keeping
2013-09-06 21:41                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-06 22:14                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-07 11:07                         ` John Keeping
2013-09-08  2:36                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  2:34                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  8:01                   ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08  8:16                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  8:42                       ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08  8:49                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:02                           ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2013-09-08 10:39                             ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 11:01               ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 11:38                 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 12:37                   ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 15:20               ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-05 21:30               ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 23:45                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 23:38               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08  2:41               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08  6:17                 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 18:10                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 20:05                     ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 22:46                     ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 22:46                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 23:11                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-05 13:31           ` Greg Troxel

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