From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:17:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqa9jso69u.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130904081047.GB2582@serenity.lan> (John Keeping's message of "Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:10:47 +0100")
John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk> writes:
> I think there are two distinct uses for pull, which boil down to:
>
> (1) git pull
> (2) git pull $remote $branch
>
> For (1) a merge is almost always the wrong thing to do since it will be
> backwards and break --first-parent.
>
> But for (2) a merge is almost always the correct thing to do (in fact it
> may even be correct to create a merge commit even when this fast
> forwards) because this most likely comes for a pull request workflow.
Peff already covered (1)---it is highly doubtful that a merge is
"almost always wrong". In fact, if that _were_ the case, we should
simply be defaulting to rebase, not failing the command and asking
between merge and rebase like jc/pull-training-wheel topic did.
We simply do not know what the user wants, as it heavily depends on
the project, so we ask the user to choose one (and stick to it).
I am not sure about (2), either. Is it really "almost always the
correct thing to do"? I tend to think myself that (2) is a lot more
likely to prefer merging than (1) would, but I certainly wouldn't
say "almost always". Again if "almost always" were the case,
wouldn't it make sense for that mode of invocation of the command to
even defeat "pull.rebase" configuration and default to merge, unless
explicitly told to "pull --rebase" from the command line?
(the last question is rhetoric, if anybody is wondering).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-04 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-31 22:38 [PATCH 0/3] Reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] merge: simplify ff-only option Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] t: replace pulls with merges Felipe Contreras
2013-08-31 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] pull: reject non-ff pulls by default Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 17:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reject " Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 21:50 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-03 22:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-03 22:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 8:10 ` John Keeping
2013-09-04 9:25 ` Jeff King
2013-09-04 10:16 ` John Keeping
2013-09-08 2:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:18 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 4:37 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 4:43 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 5:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 5:21 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 6:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 6:54 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 7:15 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 7:50 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 8:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 20:17 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 22:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:03 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:04 ` Jeff King
2013-09-08 17:26 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-08 22:38 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:01 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09 0:29 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-09 0:38 ` brian m. carlson
2013-09-09 7:18 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 18:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 19:52 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 20:24 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:44 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:10 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 21:48 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-09 20:50 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-09 20:53 ` Jeff King
2013-09-09 21:34 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-09 23:02 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10 8:08 ` John Keeping
2013-09-09 20:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-10 21:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-09 23:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-10 8:26 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-11 10:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-11 11:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-13 0:55 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-04 16:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-04 17:17 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-09-04 22:08 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-04 22:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 8:06 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 19:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 19:26 ` John Keeping
2013-09-06 21:41 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-06 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-07 11:07 ` John Keeping
2013-09-08 2:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 2:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 8:01 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 8:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 8:42 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 8:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 10:02 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 10:39 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 11:01 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 11:38 ` John Keeping
2013-09-05 12:37 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-05 15:20 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-05 21:30 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-05 23:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-05 23:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 2:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 6:17 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 18:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-09-08 20:05 ` Richard Hansen
2013-09-08 22:46 ` Philip Oakley
2013-09-08 22:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-08 23:11 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-05 13:31 ` Greg Troxel
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