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From: "Lurndal, Scott" <Scott.Lurndal@cavium.com>
To: Fu Wei <fu.wei@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Linaro ACPI Mailman List <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>, Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tn@semihalf.com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Abdulhamid, Harb" <harba@codeaurora.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [PATCH v21 13/13] acpi/arm64: Add SBSA Generic Watchdog support in GTDT driver
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 05:48:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170321124813.GB31496@slurndal-lnx1.caveonetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADyBb7vgzLCoFO6p=mu=D93VSHwuFh6cLEwVD9PvvuOUGxEgcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:48:02AM +0800, Fu Wei wrote:
> Hi Mark, Lurndal,
> 
> >>       The base server system implements _a_ Generic Watchdog as
> >>       specified in APPENDIX A: Generic Watchdog.
> >
> >   It is a requirement of a conforming implementation that there
> > be a generic watchdog (impl as per the appendix).   That doesn't preclude
> > an implmentation from providing additional watchdogs (for example, if
> > the processor implements EL3, it is likely that an implementation
> > will include a secure watchdog as well as a non-secure watchdog).
> >
> >   The SBSA describes the minimal hardware requirements for a
> > compliant server.
> 
> So I think, for the SBSA watchdog:
> 
> (1) there maybe more then one non-secure watchdog in GTDT

I suppose a firmware vendor could chose to expose more than the
platform minimum to linux.   Not quite sure what linux would
do with it :-)

> 
> (2) we may also need to skip  secure watchdogs in GTDT,
> and only register non-secure watchdogs into platform resources.

The secure watchdog will, be definition, never be accessible
to non-secure EL2 or non-secure EL1, so only in the case of
a secure EL1 operating system would the secure watchdog ever
be conveyed through ACPI.   I don't think secure EL1 is in
the scope of the SBSA, or something that needs to be accomodated
in the GTDT at this time.

scott

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Lurndal, Scott" <Scott.Lurndal@cavium.com>
To: Fu Wei <fu.wei@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Linaro ACPI Mailman List <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>, Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tn@semihalf.com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Abdulhamid, Harb" <harba@codeaurora.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [PATCH v21 13/13] acpi/arm64: Add SBSA Generic Watchdog support in GTDT driver
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 05:48:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170321124813.GB31496@slurndal-lnx1.caveonetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADyBb7vgzLCoFO6p=mu=D93VSHwuFh6cLEwVD9PvvuOUGxEgcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:48:02AM +0800, Fu Wei wrote:
> Hi Mark, Lurndal,
> 
> >>       The base server system implements _a_ Generic Watchdog as
> >>       specified in APPENDIX A: Generic Watchdog.
> >
> >   It is a requirement of a conforming implementation that there
> > be a generic watchdog (impl as per the appendix).   That doesn't preclude
> > an implmentation from providing additional watchdogs (for example, if
> > the processor implements EL3, it is likely that an implementation
> > will include a secure watchdog as well as a non-secure watchdog).
> >
> >   The SBSA describes the minimal hardware requirements for a
> > compliant server.
> 
> So I think, for the SBSA watchdog:
> 
> (1) there maybe more then one non-secure watchdog in GTDT

I suppose a firmware vendor could chose to expose more than the
platform minimum to linux.   Not quite sure what linux would
do with it :-)

> 
> (2) we may also need to skip  secure watchdogs in GTDT,
> and only register non-secure watchdogs into platform resources.

The secure watchdog will, be definition, never be accessible
to non-secure EL2 or non-secure EL1, so only in the case of
a secure EL1 operating system would the secure watchdog ever
be conveyed through ACPI.   I don't think secure EL1 is in
the scope of the SBSA, or something that needs to be accomodated
in the GTDT at this time.

scott

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Scott.Lurndal@cavium.com (Lurndal, Scott)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-acpi] [PATCH v21 13/13] acpi/arm64: Add SBSA Generic Watchdog support in GTDT driver
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 05:48:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170321124813.GB31496@slurndal-lnx1.caveonetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADyBb7vgzLCoFO6p=mu=D93VSHwuFh6cLEwVD9PvvuOUGxEgcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:48:02AM +0800, Fu Wei wrote:
> Hi Mark, Lurndal,
> 
> >>       The base server system implements _a_ Generic Watchdog as
> >>       specified in APPENDIX A: Generic Watchdog.
> >
> >   It is a requirement of a conforming implementation that there
> > be a generic watchdog (impl as per the appendix).   That doesn't preclude
> > an implmentation from providing additional watchdogs (for example, if
> > the processor implements EL3, it is likely that an implementation
> > will include a secure watchdog as well as a non-secure watchdog).
> >
> >   The SBSA describes the minimal hardware requirements for a
> > compliant server.
> 
> So I think, for the SBSA watchdog:
> 
> (1) there maybe more then one non-secure watchdog in GTDT

I suppose a firmware vendor could chose to expose more than the
platform minimum to linux.   Not quite sure what linux would
do with it :-)

> 
> (2) we may also need to skip  secure watchdogs in GTDT,
> and only register non-secure watchdogs into platform resources.

The secure watchdog will, be definition, never be accessible
to non-secure EL2 or non-secure EL1, so only in the case of
a secure EL1 operating system would the secure watchdog ever
be conveyed through ACPI.   I don't think secure EL1 is in
the scope of the SBSA, or something that needs to be accomodated
in the GTDT at this time.

scott

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-21 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-06 18:50 [PATCH v21 00/13] acpi, clocksource: add GTDT driver and GTDT support in arm_arch_timer fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50 ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 01/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: introduce two functions to get the frequency from mmio and sysreg fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-03-17 18:05   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 18:05     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 18:05     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20  7:36     ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  7:36       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  7:36       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  9:43       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  9:43         ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  9:43         ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 10:41         ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 10:41           ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 10:41           ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 11:09           ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 11:09             ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 11:09             ` Fu Wei
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 03/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: remove arch_timer_detect_rate fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-03-17 18:07   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 18:07     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 18:07     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20  6:59     ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  6:59       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  6:59       ` Fu Wei
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 04/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: split arch_timer_rate for different types of timer fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-03-17 19:05   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 19:05     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 19:05     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 13:35     ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 13:35       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 13:35       ` Fu Wei
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 05/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: refactor arch_timer_needs_probing fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 06/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: move arch_timer_needs_of_probing into DT init call fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 07/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: introduce some new structs to prepare for GTDT fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 08/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: refactor MMIO timer probing fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 09/13] acpi/arm64: Add GTDT table parse driver fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 10/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: simplify ACPI support code fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 11/13] acpi/arm64: Add memory-mapped timer support in GTDT driver fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei
2017-03-17 19:40   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 19:40     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 19:40     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 13:38     ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 13:38       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 13:38       ` Fu Wei
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 12/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: add GTDT support for memory-mapped timer fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50 ` [PATCH v21 13/13] acpi/arm64: Add SBSA Generic Watchdog support in GTDT driver fu.wei
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50   ` fu.wei
2017-03-17 20:01   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 20:01     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 20:01     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 20:01     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 17:57     ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 17:57       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 17:57       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20 18:09       ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 18:09         ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 18:09         ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20 18:50         ` [Linaro-acpi] " Lurndal, Scott
2017-03-20 18:50           ` Lurndal, Scott
2017-03-20 18:50           ` Lurndal, Scott
2017-03-21  3:48           ` Fu Wei
2017-03-21  3:48             ` Fu Wei
2017-03-21  3:48             ` Fu Wei
2017-03-21 12:48             ` Lurndal, Scott [this message]
2017-03-21 12:48               ` Lurndal, Scott
2017-03-21 12:48               ` Lurndal, Scott
2017-03-21  5:12         ` Fu Wei
2017-03-21  5:12           ` Fu Wei
2017-03-21  5:12           ` Fu Wei
     [not found] ` <20170206185015.12296-1-fu.wei-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-06 18:50   ` [PATCH v21 02/13] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: separate out device-tree code from arch_timer_detect_rate fu.wei-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A
2017-02-06 18:50     ` fu.wei at linaro.org
2017-02-06 18:50     ` fu.wei
2017-02-20 16:20   ` [PATCH v21 00/13] acpi, clocksource: add GTDT driver and GTDT support in arm_arch_timer Fu Wei
2017-02-20 16:20     ` Fu Wei
2017-02-20 16:20     ` Fu Wei
     [not found]     ` <CADyBb7t_zrLetPQQ8=k8oN6iMHhuMHO8O3XTZqGYvTT9p0evKw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-09 22:47       ` Fu Wei
2017-03-09 22:47         ` Fu Wei
2017-03-09 22:47         ` Fu Wei
2017-03-17 20:03         ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 20:03           ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-17 20:03           ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-20  5:09           ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  5:09             ` Fu Wei
2017-03-20  5:09             ` Fu Wei

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