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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] tpm: vtpm_proxy: Implement new ioctl to get supported flags
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 11:20:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170504172042.GA19932@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56703d75-b238-0bad-386a-5b6963e250a1@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 01:13:18PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 05/04/2017 11:34 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 10:56:25AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>Implement VTPM_PROXY_IOC_GET_SUPT_FLAGS ioctl to get the bitmask
> >>of flags that the vtpm_proxy driver supports in the
> >>VTPM_PROXY_IOC_NEW_DEV ioctl. This helps user space in deciding
> >>which flags to set in that ioctl.
> >you might be better off just having a VTPM_PROXY_IO_ENABLE_FEATURE
> >.feature = LOCALITY
> 
> Do you have an example driver that shows how to do this ? Can user space
> query that feature?

Try and enable the feature, if it fails then there is no feature in
the kernel.

This is the usual way to add new syscalls..

> >If that fails then the feature is not supported, no real need for the
> >query in that case.
> >
> >Not sure about Jarkko's point on request/release locality.. Is there a
> >scenario where the emulator should fail the request locality?
> 
> We could filter localities 5 and higher on the level of the driver (patch
> 2/3) since basically there are only 5 localities (0-4) in any TPM interface
> today. The typical hardware locality 4 would be filtered by the emulator per
> policy passed via command line, but I would allow it on the level of this
> driver. An error message would be returned for any command executed in that
> locality, unless the 'policy' allows it. Localities 0-3 should just be
> selectable. The TPM TIS (in the hardware) implements some complicated scheme
> when it comes to allowing the selection of a locality and I would say we
> need none of that but just tell the vTPM proxy driver the locality (patch
> 2/3) in which the next command will be executed.

Well, if TIS hardware has some scheme I feel like the emulator uAPI should
have enough fidelity to ecompass existing hardware, even if your
current emulator does not need it.

So allowing request_locality to fail from userspace seems reasonable.

Jason

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From: jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com (Jason Gunthorpe)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 1/3] tpm: vtpm_proxy: Implement new ioctl to get supported flags
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 11:20:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170504172042.GA19932@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56703d75-b238-0bad-386a-5b6963e250a1@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 01:13:18PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 05/04/2017 11:34 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 10:56:25AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>Implement VTPM_PROXY_IOC_GET_SUPT_FLAGS ioctl to get the bitmask
> >>of flags that the vtpm_proxy driver supports in the
> >>VTPM_PROXY_IOC_NEW_DEV ioctl. This helps user space in deciding
> >>which flags to set in that ioctl.
> >you might be better off just having a VTPM_PROXY_IO_ENABLE_FEATURE
> >.feature = LOCALITY
> 
> Do you have an example driver that shows how to do this ? Can user space
> query that feature?

Try and enable the feature, if it fails then there is no feature in
the kernel.

This is the usual way to add new syscalls..

> >If that fails then the feature is not supported, no real need for the
> >query in that case.
> >
> >Not sure about Jarkko's point on request/release locality.. Is there a
> >scenario where the emulator should fail the request locality?
> 
> We could filter localities 5 and higher on the level of the driver (patch
> 2/3) since basically there are only 5 localities (0-4) in any TPM interface
> today. The typical hardware locality 4 would be filtered by the emulator per
> policy passed via command line, but I would allow it on the level of this
> driver. An error message would be returned for any command executed in that
> locality, unless the 'policy' allows it. Localities 0-3 should just be
> selectable. The TPM TIS (in the hardware) implements some complicated scheme
> when it comes to allowing the selection of a locality and I would say we
> need none of that but just tell the vTPM proxy driver the locality (patch
> 2/3) in which the next command will be executed.

Well, if TIS hardware has some scheme I feel like the emulator uAPI should
have enough fidelity to ecompass existing hardware, even if your
current emulator does not need it.

So allowing request_locality to fail from userspace seems reasonable.

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-04 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-04 14:56 [PATCH v3 0/3] Extend the vTPM proxy driver to pass locality Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56 ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] tpm: vtpm_proxy: Implement new ioctl to get supported flags Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56   ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56   ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 15:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 15:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 15:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 17:13     ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 17:13       ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 17:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2017-05-04 17:20         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 17:28         ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 17:28           ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 17:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 17:31             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-04 17:33             ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 17:33               ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] tpm: vtpm_proxy: Implement request_locality function Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56   ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56   ` Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] tpm: vtpm_proxy: Add flag for ioctl to request locality prepended to command Stefan Berger
2017-05-04 14:56   ` Stefan Berger

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