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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Quan Xu <quan.xu03@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:31:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171115213131.GB21113@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1510567565-5118-1-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 06:05:59PM +0800, Quan Xu wrote:
> From: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
> 
> Some latency-intensive workload have seen obviously performance
> drop when running inside VM. The main reason is that the overhead
> is amplified when running inside VM. The most cost I have seen is
> inside idle path.

Meaning an VMEXIT b/c it is an 'halt' operation ? And then going
back in guest (VMRESUME) takes time. And hence your latency gets
all whacked b/c of this?

So if I understand - you want to use your _full_ timeslice (of the guest)
without ever (or as much as possible) to go in the hypervisor?

Which means in effect you don't care about power-saving or CPUfreq
savings, you just want to eat the full CPU for snack?

> 
> This patch introduces a new mechanism to poll for a while before
> entering idle state. If schedule is needed during poll, then we
> don't need to goes through the heavy overhead path.

Schedule of what? The guest or the host?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Quan Xu <quan.xu03@gmail.com>
Cc: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:31:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171115213131.GB21113@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1510567565-5118-1-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 06:05:59PM +0800, Quan Xu wrote:
> From: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
> 
> Some latency-intensive workload have seen obviously performance
> drop when running inside VM. The main reason is that the overhead
> is amplified when running inside VM. The most cost I have seen is
> inside idle path.

Meaning an VMEXIT b/c it is an 'halt' operation ? And then going
back in guest (VMRESUME) takes time. And hence your latency gets
all whacked b/c of this?

So if I understand - you want to use your _full_ timeslice (of the guest)
without ever (or as much as possible) to go in the hypervisor?

Which means in effect you don't care about power-saving or CPUfreq
savings, you just want to eat the full CPU for snack?

> 
> This patch introduces a new mechanism to poll for a while before
> entering idle state. If schedule is needed during poll, then we
> don't need to goes through the heavy overhead path.

Schedule of what? The guest or the host?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-15 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 10:05 [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/6] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:53   ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 11:09     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-13 11:09       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-13 11:09     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-13 11:09     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  7:02     ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  7:02     ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  7:02     ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  7:12       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  7:12         ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  8:15         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  8:15         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  8:15           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  8:22           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  8:22             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  8:22             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  8:22             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 10:23             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:23               ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:23             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:23             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  8:22           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  8:15         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  7:12       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  7:12       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14  7:30       ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14  7:30       ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14  9:38         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:27           ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 11:43             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 11:43             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 11:43             ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 11:58               ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 11:58               ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 11:58                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 10:27           ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 10:27           ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14  9:38         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  9:38         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14  7:30       ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 10:53   ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 10:53   ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 10:06 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/6] KVM guest: register kvm_idle_poll for pv_idle_ops Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/6] sched/idle: Add a generic poll before enter real idle path Quan Xu
2017-11-15 12:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 12:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 22:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15 22:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15 22:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  8:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16  8:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16  8:58         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  8:58         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  8:58         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:29         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:29         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:29         ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  8:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16  9:12       ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:45         ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20  7:05           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20  7:05           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20 18:01             ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20 18:01             ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20 18:01             ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20  7:05           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:45         ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-16  9:45         ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-16  9:53         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:53         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:23           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 11:23           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 11:23           ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 11:36             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:36             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:36               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:36               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 12:21               ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 12:21                 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 12:21               ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 12:21               ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:53         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16  9:12       ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16  9:12       ` Quan Xu
2017-11-15 12:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-13 10:06 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-15 21:31 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-15 21:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2017-11-15 21:31   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-20  7:18   ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20  7:18   ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20  7:18   ` Quan Xu

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