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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: PF_WQ_WORKER threads must sleep at should_reclaim_retry().
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:44:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180730154424.GG1206094@devbig004.ftw2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0018ac3b-94ee-5f09-e4e0-df53d2cbc925@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:25:04AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> WQ_MEM_RECLAIM guarantees that "struct task_struct" is preallocated. But
> WQ_MEM_RECLAIM does not guarantee that the pending work is started as soon
> as an item was queued. Same rule applies to both WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueues 
> and !WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueues regarding when to start a pending work (i.e.
> when schedule_timeout_*() is called).
> 
> Is this correct?

WQ_MEM_RECLAIM guarantees that there's always gonna exist at least one
kworker running the workqueue.  But all per-cpu kworkers are subject
to concurrency limiting execution - ie. if there are any per-cpu
actively running on a cpu, no futher kworkers will be scheduled.

> >              We can add timeout mechanism to workqueue so that it
> > kicks off other kworkers if one of them is in running state for too
> > long, but idk, if there's an indefinite busy loop condition in kernel
> > threads, we really should get rid of them and hung task watchdog is
> > pretty effective at finding these cases (at least with preemption
> > disabled).
> 
> Currently the page allocator has a path which can loop forever with
> only cond_resched().

Yeah, workqueue can choke on things like that and kthread indefinitely
busy looping doesn't do anybody any good.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-30 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-26 11:06 [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: PF_WQ_WORKER threads must sleep at should_reclaim_retry() Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-26 11:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-26 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-27 15:47   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30  9:32     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:34       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 14:46         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 14:54           ` Tejun Heo
2018-07-30 15:25             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 15:44               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2018-07-30 18:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 19:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 19:10                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 21:01                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31  5:09                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 10:47                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:15                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-31 11:30                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-31 11:55                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-02 22:05                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-03  6:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:07                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-22  7:32                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 20:06                               ` David Rientjes
2018-08-23 21:00                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-23 22:45                                   ` David Rientjes
2018-08-24  0:31                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:20                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 13:40                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05 13:53                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-05 14:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06  1:00                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06  5:57                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06  6:22                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06  7:03                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-30 19:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-08-27 13:51 Michal Hocko
2018-08-27 13:51 ` Michal Hocko

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