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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Greg Kaiser <gkaiser@google.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Samuel Neves <samuel.c.p.neves@gmail.com>,
	Michael Halcrow <mhalcrow@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Tomer Ashur <tomer.ashur@esat.kuleuven.be>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: remove speck
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180807031526.GD5048@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180807031237.GA779@sol.localdomain>

On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:12:38PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I mention this because people are naturally going to be curious about that, e.g.
> speculating that Google found a "backdoor" -- remember that we do have some good
> cryptographers!  I'm just stating what we know, out of honesty and openness; I
> don't really intend to be arguing for Speck with this statement, and in any case
> we already made the decision to not use Speck.

Let's be clear --- the arguments about whether or not to use Speck,
and whether or not to remove Speck from the kernel, are purely
political --- not techinical.

						- Ted

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>,
	Greg Kaiser <gkaiser@google.com>,
	Michael Halcrow <mhalcrow@google.com>,
	Samuel Neves <samuel.c.p.neves@gmail.com>,
	Tomer Ashur <tomer.ashur@esat.kuleuven.be>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: remove speck
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180807031526.GD5048@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180807031237.GA779@sol.localdomain>

On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:12:38PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I mention this because people are naturally going to be curious about that, e.g.
> speculating that Google found a "backdoor" -- remember that we do have some good
> cryptographers!  I'm just stating what we know, out of honesty and openness; I
> don't really intend to be arguing for Speck with this statement, and in any case
> we already made the decision to not use Speck.

Let's be clear --- the arguments about whether or not to use Speck,
and whether or not to remove Speck from the kernel, are purely
political --- not techinical.

						- Ted

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: tytso@mit.edu (Theodore Y. Ts'o)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] crypto: remove speck
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180807031526.GD5048@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180807031237.GA779@sol.localdomain>

On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:12:38PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I mention this because people are naturally going to be curious about that, e.g.
> speculating that Google found a "backdoor" -- remember that we do have some good
> cryptographers!  I'm just stating what we know, out of honesty and openness; I
> don't really intend to be arguing for Speck with this statement, and in any case
> we already made the decision to not use Speck.

Let's be clear --- the arguments about whether or not to use Speck,
and whether or not to remove Speck from the kernel, are purely
political --- not techinical.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-07  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-06 22:32 [RFC PATCH 0/9] crypto: HPolyC support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - add HChaCha20 library function Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 23:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-06 23:16     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-06 23:47     ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-06 23:48     ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-06 23:48       ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-07  0:15       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  0:15         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  1:06         ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-07  1:06           ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-07 10:21       ` Samuel Neves
2018-08-07 10:21         ` Samuel Neves
2018-08-07 21:51         ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 21:51           ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-08  0:15           ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-08  0:15             ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] crypto: chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] crypto: arm/chacha20 - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] crypto: arm/chacha20 - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] crypto: arm/chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] crypto: arm/poly1305 - add NEON accelerated Poly1305 implementation Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 12:09   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 12:09     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 12:09     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 23:19     ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 23:19       ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 23:19       ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-22 10:00       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-22 10:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-22 10:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] crypto: hpolyc - add support for the HPolyC encryption mode Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:33   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 23:04 ` [PATCH] crypto: remove speck Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-06 23:04   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  1:03   ` Jeffrey Walton
2018-08-07  1:03     ` Jeffrey Walton
2018-08-07 20:18     ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 20:18       ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  1:19   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  1:19     ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  2:38     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  2:38       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  3:12       ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  3:12         ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  3:12         ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  3:15         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-08-07  3:15           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-07  3:15           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-07 12:51           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 12:51             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 12:51             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07  6:22     ` [PATCH v2] crypto: remove Speck Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  6:22       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  6:57       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07  6:57         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07  6:57         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-04  4:55       ` Herbert Xu
2018-09-04  4:55         ` Herbert Xu
2018-09-04  4:55         ` Herbert Xu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-24 16:18 [PATCH] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-04-24 18:24 ` Eric Biggers
2018-04-24 18:24   ` Eric Biggers

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