All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>, Al Grant <Al.Grant@arm.com>,
	James Clark <James.Clark@arm.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 23:14:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200501151448.GA9650@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200430161815.GE25258@willie-the-truck>

Hi all,

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:18:15PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:04:36PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > 
> > > I wonder if we could/should make __sched_clock_offset available even when
> > > CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK isn't defined. It feels like it would
> > > help with this particular can or worm...
> > 
> > Errrgh. __sched_clock_offset is only needed on x86 because we transition
> > from one clock device to another on boot. It really shouldn't exist on
> > anything sane.
> 
> I think we still transition from jiffies on arm64, because we don't register
> with sched_clock until the timer driver probes. Marc, is that right?
> 
> > Let me try and understand your particular problem better.
> 
> I think the long and short of it is that userspace needs a way to convert
> the raw counter cycles into a ns value that can be compared against values
> coming out of sched_clock. To do this accurately, I think it needs the
> cycles value at the point when sched_clock was initialised.

Will's understanding is exactly what I want to resolve in this patch.

The background info is for the ARM SPE [1] decoding with perf tool, if
the timestamp is enabled, it uses the generic timer's counter as
timestamp source.  SPE trace data only contains the raw counter cycles,
as Will mentioned, the perf tool needs to convert it to a coordinate
value with sched_clock.  This is why this patch tries to calculate the
offset between the raw counter's ns value and sched_clock, eventually
this offset value will be used by SPE's decoding code in Perf tool to
calibrate a 'correct' timestamp.

Based on your suggestions, I will use __sched_clock_offset to resolve
the accuracy issue in patch v2.  (I noticed Peter suggested to use a
new API for wrapping clock_data structure, IIUC, __sched_clock_offset
is more straightforward for this case).

Please correct if I miss anything.  Thank you for reviewing and
suggestions!

Thanks,
Leo

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/1/23/571

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Al Grant <Al.Grant@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, James Clark <James.Clark@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 23:14:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200501151448.GA9650@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200430161815.GE25258@willie-the-truck>

Hi all,

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:18:15PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:04:36PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > 
> > > I wonder if we could/should make __sched_clock_offset available even when
> > > CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK isn't defined. It feels like it would
> > > help with this particular can or worm...
> > 
> > Errrgh. __sched_clock_offset is only needed on x86 because we transition
> > from one clock device to another on boot. It really shouldn't exist on
> > anything sane.
> 
> I think we still transition from jiffies on arm64, because we don't register
> with sched_clock until the timer driver probes. Marc, is that right?
> 
> > Let me try and understand your particular problem better.
> 
> I think the long and short of it is that userspace needs a way to convert
> the raw counter cycles into a ns value that can be compared against values
> coming out of sched_clock. To do this accurately, I think it needs the
> cycles value at the point when sched_clock was initialised.

Will's understanding is exactly what I want to resolve in this patch.

The background info is for the ARM SPE [1] decoding with perf tool, if
the timestamp is enabled, it uses the generic timer's counter as
timestamp source.  SPE trace data only contains the raw counter cycles,
as Will mentioned, the perf tool needs to convert it to a coordinate
value with sched_clock.  This is why this patch tries to calculate the
offset between the raw counter's ns value and sched_clock, eventually
this offset value will be used by SPE's decoding code in Perf tool to
calibrate a 'correct' timestamp.

Based on your suggestions, I will use __sched_clock_offset to resolve
the accuracy issue in patch v2.  (I noticed Peter suggested to use a
new API for wrapping clock_data structure, IIUC, __sched_clock_offset
is more straightforward for this case).

Please correct if I miss anything.  Thank you for reviewing and
suggestions!

Thanks,
Leo

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/1/23/571

_______________________________________________
linux-arm-kernel mailing list
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-01 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-20  9:35 [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer Leo Yan
2020-03-20  9:35 ` Leo Yan
2020-04-01  1:24 ` Leo Yan
2020-04-01  1:24   ` Leo Yan
2020-04-30 14:58 ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 14:58   ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 15:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 15:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 16:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:18       ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 16:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 17:33         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 17:33           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-05-01 15:14         ` Leo Yan [this message]
2020-05-01 15:14           ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 15:26           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 15:26             ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 16:10             ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 16:10               ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 17:13               ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 17:13                 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 15:29           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-05-01 15:29             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:45     ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 16:45       ` Will Deacon

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20200501151448.GA9650@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s \
    --to=leo.yan@linaro.org \
    --cc=Al.Grant@arm.com \
    --cc=James.Clark@arm.com \
    --cc=acme@kernel.org \
    --cc=alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=jolsa@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=mathieu.poirier@linaro.org \
    --cc=maz@kernel.org \
    --cc=mike.leach@linaro.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=namhyung@kernel.org \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.