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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	daniel.thompson@linaro.org, op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, jejb@linux.ibm.com, janne.karhunen@gmail.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Markus.Wamser@mixed-mode.de, casey@schaufler-ca.com,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, jens.wiklander@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, serge@hallyn.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] KEYS: trusted: Add generic trusted keys framework
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 01:43:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201013014304.GC41176@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1602065268-26017-2-git-send-email-sumit.garg@linaro.org>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:37:45PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> Current trusted keys framework is tightly coupled to use TPM device as
> an underlying implementation which makes it difficult for implementations
> like Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) etc. to provide trusted keys
> support in case platform doesn't posses a TPM device.
> 
> Add a generic trusted keys framework where underlying implementations
> can be easily plugged in. Create struct trusted_key_ops to achieve this,
> which contains necessary functions of a backend.
> 
> Also, add a module parameter in order to select a particular trust source
> in case a platform support multiple trust sources.
> 
> Suggested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>

This is exactly kind of place where I think static_call() should be
taken into use, which is a v5.10 feature [1]. For background and
context, I'd read [2].

The other thing that I see that does not make much else than additional
complexity, is trusted_tpm.ko. We can do with one trusted.ko.

I'd also *guess* that the static_call() mechanism does not work accross
module boundaries.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201012155542.GA3557765@gmail.com/
[2] https://lwn.net/Articles/815908/

/Jarkko

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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: zohar@linux.ibm.com, jejb@linux.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	jens.wiklander@linaro.org, corbet@lwn.net, jmorris@namei.org,
	serge@hallyn.com, casey@schaufler-ca.com,
	janne.karhunen@gmail.com, daniel.thompson@linaro.org,
	Markus.Wamser@mixed-mode.de, lhinds@redhat.com,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] KEYS: trusted: Add generic trusted keys framework
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 04:43:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201013014304.GC41176@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1602065268-26017-2-git-send-email-sumit.garg@linaro.org>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:37:45PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> Current trusted keys framework is tightly coupled to use TPM device as
> an underlying implementation which makes it difficult for implementations
> like Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) etc. to provide trusted keys
> support in case platform doesn't posses a TPM device.
> 
> Add a generic trusted keys framework where underlying implementations
> can be easily plugged in. Create struct trusted_key_ops to achieve this,
> which contains necessary functions of a backend.
> 
> Also, add a module parameter in order to select a particular trust source
> in case a platform support multiple trust sources.
> 
> Suggested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>

This is exactly kind of place where I think static_call() should be
taken into use, which is a v5.10 feature [1]. For background and
context, I'd read [2].

The other thing that I see that does not make much else than additional
complexity, is trusted_tpm.ko. We can do with one trusted.ko.

I'd also *guess* that the static_call() mechanism does not work accross
module boundaries.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201012155542.GA3557765@gmail.com/
[2] https://lwn.net/Articles/815908/

/Jarkko

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	daniel.thompson@linaro.org, op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, jejb@linux.ibm.com, janne.karhunen@gmail.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Markus.Wamser@mixed-mode.de, casey@schaufler-ca.com,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, jens.wiklander@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, serge@hallyn.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] KEYS: trusted: Add generic trusted keys framework
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 04:43:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201013014304.GC41176@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1602065268-26017-2-git-send-email-sumit.garg@linaro.org>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:37:45PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> Current trusted keys framework is tightly coupled to use TPM device as
> an underlying implementation which makes it difficult for implementations
> like Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) etc. to provide trusted keys
> support in case platform doesn't posses a TPM device.
> 
> Add a generic trusted keys framework where underlying implementations
> can be easily plugged in. Create struct trusted_key_ops to achieve this,
> which contains necessary functions of a backend.
> 
> Also, add a module parameter in order to select a particular trust source
> in case a platform support multiple trust sources.
> 
> Suggested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>

This is exactly kind of place where I think static_call() should be
taken into use, which is a v5.10 feature [1]. For background and
context, I'd read [2].

The other thing that I see that does not make much else than additional
complexity, is trusted_tpm.ko. We can do with one trusted.ko.

I'd also *guess* that the static_call() mechanism does not work accross
module boundaries.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201012155542.GA3557765@gmail.com/
[2] https://lwn.net/Articles/815908/

/Jarkko

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-13  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-07 10:07 [PATCH v7 0/4] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:19 ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07 ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] KEYS: trusted: Add generic trusted keys framework Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:19   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13  1:43   ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2020-10-13  1:43     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13  1:43     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 10:53     ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 10:53       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 10:53       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 11:59       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 11:59         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 11:59         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-14  5:04         ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-14  5:16           ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-14  5:04           ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-21  3:21   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-10-21  3:21     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-10-21  5:46     ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-21  5:46       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-21 12:25       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-10-21 12:25         ` Mimi Zohar
2020-10-22 11:40         ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-22 11:40           ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] KEYS: trusted: Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:19   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13  1:52   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13  1:52     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13  1:52     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 11:01     ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 11:13       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 11:01       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] doc: trusted-encrypted: updates with TEE as a new trust source Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:19   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:19   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-07 10:07   ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13  2:21   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13  2:21     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13  2:21     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 11:28     ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 11:40       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 11:28       ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-13 13:40       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 13:40         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-13 13:40         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-14  5:06         ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-14  5:18           ` Sumit Garg
2020-10-14  5:06           ` Sumit Garg

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