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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>
To: Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	mkoutny@suse.com, rdunlap@infradead.org, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	brijesh.singh@amd.com, jon.grimm@amd.com,
	eric.vantassell@amd.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	seanjc@google.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
	jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	gingell@google.com, rientjes@google.com, dionnaglaze@google.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Tian,
	Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@intel.com,
	"jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/2] cgroup: sev: Miscellaneous cgroup documentation.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 14:59:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210312145904.4071a9d6@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YEvZ4muXqiSScQ8i@google.com>

Hi Vipin,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 13:15:14 -0800, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:58:21PM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > Hi Vipin & Tejun,
> > 
> > Sorry for the late reply, I sent from a different email address than I
> > intended. Please see my comments inline.
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 03:51:16 -0500, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 10:22:03PM -0800, Vipin Sharma wrote:  
> > > > > I am trying to see if IOASIDs cgroup can also fit in this misc
> > > > > controller as yet another resource type.
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20210303131726.7a8cb169@jacob-builder/T/#u
> > > > > However, unlike sev IOASIDs need to be migrated if the process is
> > > > > moved to another cgroup. i.e. charge the destination and uncharge
> > > > > the source.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you think this behavior can be achieved by differentiating
> > > > > resource types? i.e. add attach callbacks for certain types.
> > > > > Having a single misc interface seems cleaner than creating
> > > > > another controller.    
> > > > 
> > > > I think it makes sense to add support for migration for the
> > > > resources which need it. Resources like SEV, SEV-ES will not
> > > > participate in migration and won't stop can_attach() to succeed,
> > > > other resources which need migration will allow or stop based on
> > > > their limits and capacity in the destination.    
> > >   
> > Sounds good. Perhaps some capability/feature flags for each resource
> > such that different behavior can be accommodated?
> > Could you please include me in your future posting? I will rebase on
> > yours.  
> 
> Hi Jacob
> 
> Based on Tejun's response, I will not add charge migration support in
> misc controller.
> 
Sounds good. I need some confirmation on whether migration is a must have
for VMs allocated IOASIDs.
Our primary goal is to limit the amount of IOASIDs that VMs can allocate.
If a VM is migrated to a different cgroup, I think we need to
charge/uncharge the destination/source cgroup in order enforce the limit. I
am not an expert here, any feedback would be appreciated.

> I can definitly add you in my future posting, if you still wanna use it
> without charge migration support.
> 
Yes, please. I got your v3 already, so just future patches.

> Thanks
> Vipin


Thanks,

Jacob

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>
To: Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	mkoutny@suse.com, rdunlap@infradead.org, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	brijesh.singh@amd.com, jon.grimm@amd.com,
	eric.vantassell@amd.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	seanjc@google.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
	jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	gingell@google.com, rientjes@google.com, dionnaglaze@google.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Tian,
	Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@n>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/2] cgroup: sev: Miscellaneous cgroup documentation.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 14:59:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210312145904.4071a9d6@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YEvZ4muXqiSScQ8i@google.com>

Hi Vipin,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 13:15:14 -0800, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:58:21PM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > Hi Vipin & Tejun,
> > 
> > Sorry for the late reply, I sent from a different email address than I
> > intended. Please see my comments inline.
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 03:51:16 -0500, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 10:22:03PM -0800, Vipin Sharma wrote:  
> > > > > I am trying to see if IOASIDs cgroup can also fit in this misc
> > > > > controller as yet another resource type.
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20210303131726.7a8cb169@jacob-builder/T/#u
> > > > > However, unlike sev IOASIDs need to be migrated if the process is
> > > > > moved to another cgroup. i.e. charge the destination and uncharge
> > > > > the source.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you think this behavior can be achieved by differentiating
> > > > > resource types? i.e. add attach callbacks for certain types.
> > > > > Having a single misc interface seems cleaner than creating
> > > > > another controller.    
> > > > 
> > > > I think it makes sense to add support for migration for the
> > > > resources which need it. Resources like SEV, SEV-ES will not
> > > > participate in migration and won't stop can_attach() to succeed,
> > > > other resources which need migration will allow or stop based on
> > > > their limits and capacity in the destination.    
> > >   
> > Sounds good. Perhaps some capability/feature flags for each resource
> > such that different behavior can be accommodated?
> > Could you please include me in your future posting? I will rebase on
> > yours.  
> 
> Hi Jacob
> 
> Based on Tejun's response, I will not add charge migration support in
> misc controller.
> 
Sounds good. I need some confirmation on whether migration is a must have
for VMs allocated IOASIDs.
Our primary goal is to limit the amount of IOASIDs that VMs can allocate.
If a VM is migrated to a different cgroup, I think we need to
charge/uncharge the destination/source cgroup in order enforce the limit. I
am not an expert here, any feedback would be appreciated.

> I can definitly add you in my future posting, if you still wanna use it
> without charge migration support.
> 
Yes, please. I got your v3 already, so just future patches.

> Thanks
> Vipin


Thanks,

Jacob

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-12 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-02  8:17 [RFC v2 0/2] cgroup: New misc cgroup controller Vipin Sharma
2021-03-02  8:17 ` [RFC v2 1/2] cgroup: sev: Add " Vipin Sharma
2021-03-03 15:42   ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-04  6:12     ` Vipin Sharma
2021-03-04  6:12       ` Vipin Sharma
2021-03-04  8:53       ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-02  8:17 ` [RFC v2 2/2] cgroup: sev: Miscellaneous cgroup documentation Vipin Sharma
2021-03-04  2:55   ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-04  2:55     ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-04  6:22     ` Vipin Sharma
2021-03-04  8:51       ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-04  8:51         ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-12 20:58         ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-12 20:58           ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-12 21:15           ` Vipin Sharma
2021-03-12 21:15             ` Vipin Sharma
2021-03-12 22:59             ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2021-03-12 22:59               ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-13 10:20               ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-13 10:20                 ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-13 16:57                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-13 16:57                   ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-13 18:05                   ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-13 18:05                     ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-15 22:11                     ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-15 22:11                       ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-15 22:19                       ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-15 22:19                         ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-15 23:40                         ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-15 23:40                           ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-15 23:54                           ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-15 23:54                             ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-16  1:30                             ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-16  1:30                               ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-16  2:22                               ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-16  2:22                                 ` Tejun Heo
2021-03-16 18:19                                 ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-16 18:19                                   ` Jacob Pan

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