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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thierry.reding@gmail.com" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 00/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add NVIDIA implementation
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 11:45:24 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210902144524.GU1721383@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5433E064405A1AFEC50C1C9F8CCD9@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 06:55:55AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Alex Williamson
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:16 AM
> > 
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:59:10 -0700
> > Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The SMMUv3 devices implemented in the Grace SoC support NVIDIA's
> > custom
> > > CMDQ-Virtualization (CMDQV) hardware. Like the new ECMDQ feature first
> > > introduced in the ARM SMMUv3.3 specification, CMDQV adds multiple
> > VCMDQ
> > > interfaces to supplement the single architected SMMU_CMDQ in an effort
> > > to reduce contention.
> > >
> > > This series of patches add CMDQV support with its preparational changes:
> > >
> > > * PATCH-1 to PATCH-8 are related to shared VMID feature: they are used
> > >   first to improve TLB utilization, second to bind a shared VMID with a
> > >   VCMDQ interface for hardware configuring requirement.
> > 
> > The vfio changes would need to be implemented in alignment with the
> > /dev/iommu proposals[1].  AIUI, the VMID is essentially binding
> > multiple containers together for TLB invalidation, which I expect in
> > the proposal below is largely already taken care of in that a single
> > iommu-fd can support multiple I/O address spaces and it's largely
> > expected that a hypervisor would use a single iommu-fd so this explicit
> > connection by userspace across containers wouldn't be necessary.
> 
> Agree. VMID is equivalent to DID (domain id) in other vendor iommus.
> with /dev/iommu multiple I/O address spaces can share the same VMID
> via nesting. No need of exposing VMID to userspace to build the 
> connection.

Indeed, this looks like a flavour of the accelerated invalidation
stuff we've talked about already.

I would see it probably exposed as some HW specific IOCTL on the iommu
fd to get access to the accelerated invalidation for IOASID's in the
FD.

Indeed, this seems like a further example of why /dev/iommu is looking
like a good idea as this RFC is very complicated to do something
fairly simple.

Where are thing on the /dev/iommu work these days?

Thanks,
Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe via iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"thierry.reding@gmail.com" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 00/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add NVIDIA implementation
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 11:45:24 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210902144524.GU1721383@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5433E064405A1AFEC50C1C9F8CCD9@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 06:55:55AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Alex Williamson
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:16 AM
> > 
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:59:10 -0700
> > Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The SMMUv3 devices implemented in the Grace SoC support NVIDIA's
> > custom
> > > CMDQ-Virtualization (CMDQV) hardware. Like the new ECMDQ feature first
> > > introduced in the ARM SMMUv3.3 specification, CMDQV adds multiple
> > VCMDQ
> > > interfaces to supplement the single architected SMMU_CMDQ in an effort
> > > to reduce contention.
> > >
> > > This series of patches add CMDQV support with its preparational changes:
> > >
> > > * PATCH-1 to PATCH-8 are related to shared VMID feature: they are used
> > >   first to improve TLB utilization, second to bind a shared VMID with a
> > >   VCMDQ interface for hardware configuring requirement.
> > 
> > The vfio changes would need to be implemented in alignment with the
> > /dev/iommu proposals[1].  AIUI, the VMID is essentially binding
> > multiple containers together for TLB invalidation, which I expect in
> > the proposal below is largely already taken care of in that a single
> > iommu-fd can support multiple I/O address spaces and it's largely
> > expected that a hypervisor would use a single iommu-fd so this explicit
> > connection by userspace across containers wouldn't be necessary.
> 
> Agree. VMID is equivalent to DID (domain id) in other vendor iommus.
> with /dev/iommu multiple I/O address spaces can share the same VMID
> via nesting. No need of exposing VMID to userspace to build the 
> connection.

Indeed, this looks like a flavour of the accelerated invalidation
stuff we've talked about already.

I would see it probably exposed as some HW specific IOCTL on the iommu
fd to get access to the accelerated invalidation for IOASID's in the
FD.

Indeed, this seems like a further example of why /dev/iommu is looking
like a good idea as this RFC is very complicated to do something
fairly simple.

Where are thing on the /dev/iommu work these days?

Thanks,
Jason
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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thierry.reding@gmail.com" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 "cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 00/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add NVIDIA implementation
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 11:45:24 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210902144524.GU1721383@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5433E064405A1AFEC50C1C9F8CCD9@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 06:55:55AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Alex Williamson
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:16 AM
> > 
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:59:10 -0700
> > Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The SMMUv3 devices implemented in the Grace SoC support NVIDIA's
> > custom
> > > CMDQ-Virtualization (CMDQV) hardware. Like the new ECMDQ feature first
> > > introduced in the ARM SMMUv3.3 specification, CMDQV adds multiple
> > VCMDQ
> > > interfaces to supplement the single architected SMMU_CMDQ in an effort
> > > to reduce contention.
> > >
> > > This series of patches add CMDQV support with its preparational changes:
> > >
> > > * PATCH-1 to PATCH-8 are related to shared VMID feature: they are used
> > >   first to improve TLB utilization, second to bind a shared VMID with a
> > >   VCMDQ interface for hardware configuring requirement.
> > 
> > The vfio changes would need to be implemented in alignment with the
> > /dev/iommu proposals[1].  AIUI, the VMID is essentially binding
> > multiple containers together for TLB invalidation, which I expect in
> > the proposal below is largely already taken care of in that a single
> > iommu-fd can support multiple I/O address spaces and it's largely
> > expected that a hypervisor would use a single iommu-fd so this explicit
> > connection by userspace across containers wouldn't be necessary.
> 
> Agree. VMID is equivalent to DID (domain id) in other vendor iommus.
> with /dev/iommu multiple I/O address spaces can share the same VMID
> via nesting. No need of exposing VMID to userspace to build the 
> connection.

Indeed, this looks like a flavour of the accelerated invalidation
stuff we've talked about already.

I would see it probably exposed as some HW specific IOCTL on the iommu
fd to get access to the accelerated invalidation for IOASID's in the
FD.

Indeed, this seems like a further example of why /dev/iommu is looking
like a good idea as this RFC is very complicated to do something
fairly simple.

Where are thing on the /dev/iommu work these days?

Thanks,
Jason

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31  2:59 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add NVIDIA implementation Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59 ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59 ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/13] iommu: Add set_nesting_vmid/get_nesting_vmid functions Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/13] vfio: add VFIO_IOMMU_GET_VMID and VFIO_IOMMU_SET_VMID Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/13] vfio: Document VMID control for IOMMU Virtualization Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/13] vfio: add set_vmid and get_vmid for vfio_iommu_type1 Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/13] vfio/type1: Implement set_vmid and get_vmid Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/13] vfio/type1: Set/get VMID to/from iommu driver Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add shared VMID support for NESTING Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add VMID alloc/free helpers Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pass dev pointer to arm_smmu_detach_dev Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pass cmdq pointer in arm_smmu_cmdq_issue_cmdlist() Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add implementation infrastructure Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for NVIDIA CMDQ-Virtualization hw Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  8:03   ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31  9:13   ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31  9:13     ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31  2:59 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/13] iommu/nvidia-smmu-v3: Add mdev interface support Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen
2021-08-31  2:59   ` Nicolin Chen via iommu
2021-08-31  8:58   ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31 10:26   ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31 10:26     ` kernel test robot
2021-08-31 16:15 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/13] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add NVIDIA implementation Alex Williamson
2021-08-31 16:15   ` Alex Williamson
2021-08-31 16:15   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-01  6:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-01  6:55     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-01  6:55     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-02 14:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-09-02 14:45       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-02 14:45       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-09-02 22:27       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-02 22:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-02 22:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-09-16 18:21         ` Nicolin Chen
2021-09-16 18:21           ` Nicolin Chen
2021-09-16 18:21           ` Nicolin Chen via iommu

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