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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, Edward Liaw <edliaw@google.com>,
	Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] posix-timers: Prefer delivery of signals to the current thread
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:23:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240404152356.GE7153@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v84x9nad.ffs@tglx>

On 04/04, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 04 2024 at 15:43, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > And this will happen with
> > or without the commit bcb7ee79029dca ("posix-timers: Prefer delivery of
> > signals to the current thread"). Any thread can dequeue a shared signal,
> > say, on return from interrupt.
> >
> > Just without that commit this "eventually" means A_LOT_OF_TIME
> > statistically.
>
> bcb7ee79029dca only directs the wakeup to current, but the signal is
> still queued in the process wide shared pending list. So the thread
> which sees sigpending() first will grab and deliver it to itself.

This is what I tried to say above.

> What we can actually test is the avoidance of waking up the main thread
> by doing the following in the main thread:

Hmm... I think it can be even simpler,

> I'm testing a modification which implements something like the above and
> the success condition is that the main thread does not return early from
> nanosleep() and has no signal accounted. It survived 2000 iterations by
> now.

Yes, but please see a trivial test-case I sent you few minutes ago.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-16 12:30 [PATCH v6 1/2] posix-timers: Prefer delivery of signals to the current thread Marco Elver
2023-03-16 12:30 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] selftests/timers/posix_timers: Test delivery of signals across threads Marco Elver
2023-04-16  7:04   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-06 20:53   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] " Muhammad Usama Anjum
2024-04-06 21:13     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-06 21:32       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-03-30 10:19 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] posix-timers: Prefer delivery of signals to the current thread Marco Elver
2023-04-06 14:12 ` Marco Elver
2023-04-06 15:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-04-06 20:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-16  7:04 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-01 20:17 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] " John Stultz
2024-04-02  9:07   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-02 14:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-02 17:23     ` John Stultz
2024-04-03 12:41       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-03 15:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-03 15:43           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-03 16:32             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-03 18:16               ` John Stultz
2024-04-03 19:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-03 19:35                   ` John Stultz
2024-04-03 22:24                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-04 14:54                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-04 18:08                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-06 15:09                           ` [PATCH] selftests/timers/posix_timers: reimplement check_timer_distribution() Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-06 15:10                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-06 22:00                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-08  8:30                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-08 10:01                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-08 10:26                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-08 18:49                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-08 22:17                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-09 11:10                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-09 11:45                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-09 12:02                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-09 13:38                                           ` [PATCH v2] " Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-09 15:57                                             ` [tip: timers/urgent] selftests/timers/posix_timers: Reimplement check_timer_distribution() tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-10 22:21                                             ` [PATCH v2] selftests/timers/posix_timers: reimplement check_timer_distribution() John Stultz
2024-04-10 22:31                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-10 22:33                                                 ` John Stultz
2024-04-11 12:41                             ` [PATCH] " Mark Brown
2024-04-11 15:33                               ` John Stultz
2024-04-11 12:44                             ` Mark Brown
2024-04-11 14:17                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-11 15:50                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-11 16:03                                   ` Mark Brown
2024-04-12 12:35                               ` [PATCH] selftests: fix build failure with NOLIBC Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-12 14:58                                 ` [tip: timers/urgent] selftests: kselftest: Fix " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-14  7:42                                 ` [PATCH] selftests: fix " Mark Brown
2024-04-04  8:55             ` [PATCH v6 1/2] posix-timers: Prefer delivery of signals to the current thread Dmitry Vyukov
2024-04-04 13:43               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-04 15:10                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-04-04 15:23                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-04-05  4:28                 ` Dmitry Vyukov

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