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From: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [OSSTEST PATCH 6/9] db_retry: Suppress an "exiting via last" warning
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:39:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22132.6830.950656.416870@mariner.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1450437258.4053.198.camel@citrix.com>

Ian Campbell writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH 6/9] db_retry: Suppress an "exiting via last" warning"):
> On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 18:38 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Both of these are intentional.  Perl thinks they might not be.
> 
> ... and that's because it is a common enough mistake to think that next or
> last exits only the scope of the eval and therefore in this case to expect
> it to run "last if !length $@;", while it actually wont.

Yes.

> I would have expected that if you want to successfully exit (i.e. not die)
> the eval early and continue on with the remainder of the loop you should
> use return, and http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/eval.html seems to back
> that up ("the value returned is the value of the last expression evaluated
> inside the mini-program; a return statement may be also used,"), but
> earlier you said that return would generate the same warning, so I remain a
> bit confused.

Oh!  I was confused about the effect of `return' in an eval.  I
expected it to exit past the eval and return out of the calling
function.

> According to my reading of eval.html "return if $db_retry_stop eq 'abort'"
> would exit the eval with $@="" ("If there was no error, $@ is set to the
> empty string", it mentions last and goto bypassing this, but not return).
> Then since length "" is false that outer last would be run insteadand we
> are done with the loop as we wanted. AFAICT that would avoid the warning
> for the inner last, but is not usable for the inner next, and in any case
> using last inside the eval is actually more obvious in this instance, once
> one thinks one understands an eval (which in my case is still debatable I
> think)

I still think this reasoning about `return' is more fiddly than just
saying `last' or `next' when we mean `last' or `next'...

Particularly given that, now, there is a `no warnings qw(exiting)' to
cue the reader that they may need to check the FM.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-18 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-17 17:06 [OSSTEST PATCH 1/9] README.dev: Document the blessings Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 2/9] mg-schema-test-database: Provide some timeouts which are better for testing Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:19   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 3/9] mg-schema-test-database: Wipe previous local plan data Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:22   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:37     ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:42       ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:50         ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 18:11           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 4/9] mg-schema-test-database: Borrow shares properly Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:26   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:43     ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 18:08       ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 5/9] ms-planner: Improve an error message Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:26   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 6/9] db_retry: Suppress an "exiting via last" warning Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:31   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:48     ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 18:10       ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 18:38         ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-18 11:14           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-18 14:39             ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 7/9] Executive DB retry: Avoid an undefined warning Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:31   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 8/9] mg-allocate: Better error handling when no candidates Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:33   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:06 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 9/9] mg-allocate: In planner mode, pre-check the arguments Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 17:33   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:18 ` [OSSTEST PATCH 1/9] README.dev: Document the blessings Ian Campbell
2015-12-17 17:59   ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-17 18:12     ` Ian Campbell

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