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From: Dmitry Sepp <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Keiichi Watanabe <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>, <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	<acourbot@chromium.org>, <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	<daniel@ffwll.ch>, <dgreid@chromium.org>, <egranata@google.com>,
	<fziglio@redhat.com>, <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	<marcheu@chromium.org>, <posciak@chromium.org>,
	<spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	<tfiga@chromium.org>, <uril@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:26:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2570078.xtWa8k4VtA@os-lin-dmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191218134037.3jbouht52bxqwfyy@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

Hi Gerd,

On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 14:40:37 CET Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> > +The device MUST mark the last buffer with the
> > +VIRTIO_VIDEO_BUFFER_F_EOS flag to denote completion of the drain
> > +sequence.
> 
> No, that would build a race condition into the protocol.  The device
> could complete the last buffer after the driver has sent the drain
> command but before the device saw it.  So the flag would not be
> reliable.
No, then it means the device was not in drain, but, for example, hit a 
resolution change in the stream and tells us that this is the last buffer with 
the old resolution.

> 
> I also can't see why the flag is needed in the first place.  The driver
> should know which buffers are queued still and be able to figure
> whenever the drain is complete or not without depending on that flag.
> So I'd suggest to simply drop it.
This flag is used not for drain only. In marks the completion of whatever 
specific buffer sequence, like a full end-of-stream, resolution change, drain 
etc. We also need this to handle nested sequences. For instance, a resolution 
change event might happen while in drain.

Regards,
Dmitry.

> 
> That is the only issue I've spotted in the protocol on a first quick
> look.  There are a few places where the spec text could be improved.
> I'll try to set aside some time to go over this in detail, but I can't
> promise I'll find the time to do that before xmas and new year.
> 
> cheers,
>   Gerd



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From: Dmitry Sepp <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Keiichi Watanabe <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	acourbot@chromium.org, alexlau@chromium.org, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	dgreid@chromium.org, egranata@google.com, fziglio@redhat.com,
	hverkuil@xs4all.nl, marcheu@chromium.org, posciak@chromium.org,
	spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, stevensd@chromium.org,
	tfiga@chromium.org, uril@redhat.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:26:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2570078.xtWa8k4VtA@os-lin-dmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191218134037.3jbouht52bxqwfyy@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

Hi Gerd,

On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 14:40:37 CET Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> > +The device MUST mark the last buffer with the
> > +VIRTIO_VIDEO_BUFFER_F_EOS flag to denote completion of the drain
> > +sequence.
> 
> No, that would build a race condition into the protocol.  The device
> could complete the last buffer after the driver has sent the drain
> command but before the device saw it.  So the flag would not be
> reliable.
No, then it means the device was not in drain, but, for example, hit a 
resolution change in the stream and tells us that this is the last buffer with 
the old resolution.

> 
> I also can't see why the flag is needed in the first place.  The driver
> should know which buffers are queued still and be able to figure
> whenever the drain is complete or not without depending on that flag.
> So I'd suggest to simply drop it.
This flag is used not for drain only. In marks the completion of whatever 
specific buffer sequence, like a full end-of-stream, resolution change, drain 
etc. We also need this to handle nested sequences. For instance, a resolution 
change event might happen while in drain.

Regards,
Dmitry.

> 
> That is the only issue I've spotted in the protocol on a first quick
> look.  There are a few places where the spec text could be improved.
> I'll try to set aside some time to go over this in detail, but I can't
> promise I'll find the time to do that before xmas and new year.
> 
> cheers,
>   Gerd



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-19  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18 13:02 [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO video device specification Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02   ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:40   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 13:40     ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 14:08     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-18 14:08       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  7:46       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19  7:46         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19  9:48         ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:48           ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:59           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  9:59             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 10:54             ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 10:54               ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 12:05               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 12:05                 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 13:12               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 13:12                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-08 13:52                 ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:52                   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-09 13:40                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-09 13:40                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-09 14:20                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-09 14:20                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-14  7:18                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-14  7:18                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-14 10:35                       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-14 10:35                         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-15  7:49                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15  7:49                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:12                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:12                           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 13:01           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 13:01             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-08 13:50             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:50               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-19  9:26     ` Dmitry Sepp [this message]
2019-12-19  9:26       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:59       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  9:59         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 12:54       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 12:54         ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 17:29   ` Frediano Ziglio
2019-12-20 14:05     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 14:05       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:33       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:33         ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 13:28   ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 13:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:26     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:26       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:46       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-21  6:46         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:46           ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-12-30 12:16     ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-30 12:16       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  6:31       ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-06  6:31         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-06  8:33         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  8:33           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  9:29           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  9:29             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 15:47   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 15:47     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  8:47     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  8:47       ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06 10:21     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 10:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 14:59   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 14:59     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 13:24     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 13:24       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 16:50       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 16:50         ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08  6:59         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08  6:59           ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 10:00           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 10:00             ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 12:14             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:14               ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:46               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-08 12:46                 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2020-01-08 13:05                 ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:05                   ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:11                 ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 13:11                   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 13:23                   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:23                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:23   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:23     ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:58   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-21  4:36   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-21  4:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-21  6:18     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:18       ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:19       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:19         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2020-01-03 13:05         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 13:05           ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 10:30           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 10:30             ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 11:28             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 11:28               ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 10:25               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 10:25                 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-09 14:56                 ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-09 14:56                   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 10:16                   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 10:16                     ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 13:53                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-10 13:53                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-10 15:11                       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 15:11                         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-11 16:06                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-11 16:06                           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13  9:50                           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-13  9:50                             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-15 11:23                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:23                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-13  9:56                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13  9:56                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 10:41                           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-13 11:05                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 11:05                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 11:59                               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13 11:59                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13 13:26                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 13:26                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-15 11:00                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:00                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:23                                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:23                                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:26                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-15 11:26                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-20  7:20                                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-20  7:20                                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-20 10:47                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-20 10:47                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  2:47                                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  2:47                                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  6:44                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  6:44                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  8:56                                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  8:56                                                 ` Keiichi Watanabe

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