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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, pagupta@redhat.com, wei.w.wang@intel.com,
	Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	dodgen@google.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	dhildenb@redhat.com, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	john.starks@microsoft.com, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	cohuck@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][Patch v12 1/2] mm: page_reporting: core infrastructure
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:34:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32f61f87-6205-5001-866c-a84e20fc9d85@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d39504c9-93bd-b8f7-e119-84baac5a42d4@redhat.com>

>>>> +static int process_free_page(struct page *page,
>>>> +                            struct page_reporting_config *phconf, int count)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int mt, order, ret = 0;
>>>> +
>>>> +       mt = get_pageblock_migratetype(page);
>>>> +       order = page_private(page);
>>>> +       ret = __isolate_free_page(page, order);
>>>> +
>> I just started looking into the wonderful world of
>> isolation/compaction/migration.
>>
>> I don't think saving/restoring the migratetype is correct here. AFAIK,
>> MOVABLE/UNMOVABLE/RECLAIMABLE is just a hint, doesn't mean that e.g.,
>> movable pages and up in UNMOVABLE or ordinary kernel allocations on
>> MOVABLE. So that shouldn't be an issue - I guess.
>>
>> 1. You should never allocate something that is no
>> MOVABLE/UNMOVABLE/RECLAIMABLE. Especially not, if you have ISOLATE or
>> CMA here. There should at least be a !is_migrate_isolate_page() check
>> somewhere
>>
>> 2. set_migratetype_isolate() takes the zone lock, so to avoid racing
>> with isolation code, you have to hold the zone lock. Your code seems to
>> do that, so at least you cannot race against isolation.
>>
>> 3. You could end up temporarily allocating something in the
>> ZONE_MOVABLE. The pages you allocate are, however, not movable. There
>> would have to be a way to make alloc_contig_range()/offlining code
>> properly wait until the pages have been processed. Not sure about the
>> real implications, though - too many details in the code (I wonder if
>> Alex' series has a way of dealing with that)
>>
>> When you restore the migratetype, you could suddenly overwrite e.g.,
>> ISOLATE, which feels wrong.
> 
> 
> I was triggering an occasional CPU stall bug earlier, with saving and restoring
> the migratetype I was able to fix it.
> But I will further look into this to figure out if it is really required.
> 

You should especially look into handling isolated/cma pages. Maybe that
was the original issue. Alex seems to have added that in his latest
series (skipping isolated/cma pageblocks completely) as well.

>> [...]
>>> So as per your comments in the cover page, the two functions above
>>> should also probably be plugged into the zone resizing logic somewhere
>>> so if a zone is resized the bitmap is adjusted.
>>>
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * zone_reporting_init - For each zone initializes the page reporting fields
>>>> + * and allocates the respective bitmap.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * This function returns 0 on successful initialization, -ENOMEM otherwise.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static int zone_reporting_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct zone *zone;
>>>> +       int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +       for_each_populated_zone(zone) {
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE
>>>> +               /* we can not report pages which are not in the buddy */
>>>> +               if (zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_DEVICE)
>>>> +                       continue;
>>>> +#endif
>>> I'm pretty sure this isn't needed since I don't think the ZONE_DEVICE
>>> zone will be considered "populated".
>>>
>> I think you are right (although it's confusing, we will have present
>> sections part of a zone but the zone has no present_pages - screams like
>> a re factoring - leftover from ZONE_DEVICE introduction).
> 
> 
> I think in that case it is safe to have this check here.
> What do you guys suggest?

If it's not needed, I'd say drop it (eventually add a comment).


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, pagupta@redhat.com, wei.w.wang@intel.com,
	Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	dodgen@google.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	dhildenb@redhat.com, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	john.starks@microsoft.com, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	cohuck@redhat.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC][Patch v12 1/2] mm: page_reporting: core infrastructure
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:34:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32f61f87-6205-5001-866c-a84e20fc9d85@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d39504c9-93bd-b8f7-e119-84baac5a42d4@redhat.com>

>>>> +static int process_free_page(struct page *page,
>>>> +                            struct page_reporting_config *phconf, int count)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int mt, order, ret = 0;
>>>> +
>>>> +       mt = get_pageblock_migratetype(page);
>>>> +       order = page_private(page);
>>>> +       ret = __isolate_free_page(page, order);
>>>> +
>> I just started looking into the wonderful world of
>> isolation/compaction/migration.
>>
>> I don't think saving/restoring the migratetype is correct here. AFAIK,
>> MOVABLE/UNMOVABLE/RECLAIMABLE is just a hint, doesn't mean that e.g.,
>> movable pages and up in UNMOVABLE or ordinary kernel allocations on
>> MOVABLE. So that shouldn't be an issue - I guess.
>>
>> 1. You should never allocate something that is no
>> MOVABLE/UNMOVABLE/RECLAIMABLE. Especially not, if you have ISOLATE or
>> CMA here. There should at least be a !is_migrate_isolate_page() check
>> somewhere
>>
>> 2. set_migratetype_isolate() takes the zone lock, so to avoid racing
>> with isolation code, you have to hold the zone lock. Your code seems to
>> do that, so at least you cannot race against isolation.
>>
>> 3. You could end up temporarily allocating something in the
>> ZONE_MOVABLE. The pages you allocate are, however, not movable. There
>> would have to be a way to make alloc_contig_range()/offlining code
>> properly wait until the pages have been processed. Not sure about the
>> real implications, though - too many details in the code (I wonder if
>> Alex' series has a way of dealing with that)
>>
>> When you restore the migratetype, you could suddenly overwrite e.g.,
>> ISOLATE, which feels wrong.
> 
> 
> I was triggering an occasional CPU stall bug earlier, with saving and restoring
> the migratetype I was able to fix it.
> But I will further look into this to figure out if it is really required.
> 

You should especially look into handling isolated/cma pages. Maybe that
was the original issue. Alex seems to have added that in his latest
series (skipping isolated/cma pageblocks completely) as well.

>> [...]
>>> So as per your comments in the cover page, the two functions above
>>> should also probably be plugged into the zone resizing logic somewhere
>>> so if a zone is resized the bitmap is adjusted.
>>>
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * zone_reporting_init - For each zone initializes the page reporting fields
>>>> + * and allocates the respective bitmap.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * This function returns 0 on successful initialization, -ENOMEM otherwise.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static int zone_reporting_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct zone *zone;
>>>> +       int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +       for_each_populated_zone(zone) {
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE
>>>> +               /* we can not report pages which are not in the buddy */
>>>> +               if (zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_DEVICE)
>>>> +                       continue;
>>>> +#endif
>>> I'm pretty sure this isn't needed since I don't think the ZONE_DEVICE
>>> zone will be considered "populated".
>>>
>> I think you are right (although it's confusing, we will have present
>> sections part of a zone but the zone has no present_pages - screams like
>> a re factoring - leftover from ZONE_DEVICE introduction).
> 
> 
> I think in that case it is safe to have this check here.
> What do you guys suggest?

If it's not needed, I'd say drop it (eventually add a comment).


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-13 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-12 13:12 [RFC][PATCH v12 0/2] mm: Support for page reporting Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:12 ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:12 ` [RFC][Patch v12 1/2] mm: page_reporting: core infrastructure Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:12   ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 18:47   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 18:47     ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 18:47     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 20:04     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 20:04       ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-20 14:11       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-20 14:11         ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 20:05     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-12 20:05       ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-08-13 10:30       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-13 10:30         ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-13 10:34         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-08-13 10:34           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-13 10:42           ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-13 10:42             ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-13 10:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-13 10:44               ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-08-13 23:14           ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-13 23:14             ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-13 23:14             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-14  7:07             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-14  7:07               ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-08-14 12:49               ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 12:49                 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 15:49     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 15:49       ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 16:11       ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-14 16:11         ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-14 16:11         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-15 13:15         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-15 13:15           ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-15 19:22           ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-15 19:22             ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-15 23:00             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-15 23:00               ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-15 23:00               ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-16 18:35               ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-16 18:35                 ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-30 15:15     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-30 15:15       ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-30 15:31       ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-30 15:31         ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-30 15:31         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-30 16:05         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-30 16:05           ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-09-04  8:40           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-04  8:40             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-10 20:36   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-10-10 20:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-10-10 20:36     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-10-11 11:02     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-10-11 11:02       ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:12 ` [RFC][Patch v12 2/2] virtio-balloon: interface to support free page reporting Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:12   ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 10:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 10:29     ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 11:47     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 11:47       ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 13:42       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 13:42         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 14:01         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-14 14:01           ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:13 ` [QEMU Patch 1/2] virtio-balloon: adding bit for page reporting support Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:13   ` [QEMU Patch 2/2] virtio-balloon: support for handling page reporting Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 13:13     ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 15:18     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 15:18       ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 15:18       ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-12 15:26       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-12 15:26         ` [virtio-dev] " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-09-11 12:30 ` [RFC][PATCH v12 0/2] mm: Support for " David Hildenbrand
2019-09-11 12:30   ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand

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