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From: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] omap init_early changes for irq and timer init
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:09:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D958F36.6060208@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110331173212.GB21887@atomide.com>

On 3/31/2011 11:02 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Santosh Shilimkar<santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>  [110331 01:14]:
>> On 3/30/2011 11:52 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>
>>> What it does not have is the code to dedicate gpt1 for PM
>>> code, which can be done later once all the other dmtimer
>>> changes are done.
>>>
>> Which not possible to do unless you plan to hack generic
>> timer framework or waste additional timer hardware for
>> this.
>
> Well an extra timer hardware would only be needed on omap2&  3.
>
> But hey, if it makes sense to do or not to do is a different
> set of patches. At least we now have an option to play with it.
>
>>> For removing the old interface, I don't see any reason to
>>> select timer combinations on omap3 other than omap3_timer
>>> and omap3_beagle_timer.
>>>
>>> If there's need, any new valid sane combinations can be esily
>>> added, although I seriously doubt that we'll need more for
>>> omap3.
>>>
>> May be I am wrong but the point is about the merit of the
>> solution even if there are only couple of board files where
>> we use that interface.
>>
>> It much cleaner and simpler to say timerid=X, from board
>> file rather than creating a "struct sys_timer" instance
>> and putting that in timer code.
>
> Well the timerid=X adds yet another interface and more calls from
> board-*.c to the common code. And it requires more changes if beagle
> boards want to use the system clock as the source clock instead
> of the 32KiHZ source.
>
> Maybe let's call the omap3_beagle_timer omap3_secure_timer instead?
>
> That should solve your issue of having the board name show up
> in the generic code, no?
>
Sorry about picking up on names but that was not
my point. I agree with you on reducing interfaces so
I step back on this point.

>>>> At least I don't see other solution than using GPT1
>>>> for wakeup.
>>>
>>> Right, there's no other way to wake except gpt1 or wake-up
>>> enabled gpio lines. But we don't need to use gpt1 during
>>> runtime at all.
>>>
>> This is not entirely correct and I think this is the point
>> where we are not on same page. During runtime, gpt1 clock
>> event is not used for tick generation but it's kept
>> programmed because low power state switch via
>> get triggered any time and on any CPU.
>
> Well ideally we would not program it during runtime at all
> because it's slow to program. I don't think that can be
> currently done with the sys_timer.
>
>> This is the same problem as X86 APIC timer + HPET
>> switching and I worked with Thomas G and Russell
>> to get this working on ARM platforms using generic
>> timer framework. No hacking is needed in PM code
>> for this.
>
> Except we should improve things eventually where we don't
> need to program the slow external timer during runtime
> if we have local timers.
>
This is already the case now. On OMAP4 running system,
CPU use their own local timers and rq's. There is no
broadcasting. Whenever there is a need of it like
the situations where local-timers die (low power
states), timer system switches to broad-cast timer
which is wakeup capable. GPT1 in our case. This
is all managed by timer framework and works seamlessly.

> Hmm maybe I'm wrong and you got that working already?
>
I don't think you are wrong. All your points are
correct. The only missing point was the necessity
of GPT1 registered as clock-event to allow
dynamic switching between clock-events.

That's where I was saying that we are not
left with GPT1 for PM debug feature.

Regards
Santosh





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From: santosh.shilimkar@ti.com (Santosh Shilimkar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 00/10] omap init_early changes for irq and timer init
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:09:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D958F36.6060208@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110331173212.GB21887@atomide.com>

On 3/31/2011 11:02 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Santosh Shilimkar<santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>  [110331 01:14]:
>> On 3/30/2011 11:52 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>
>>> What it does not have is the code to dedicate gpt1 for PM
>>> code, which can be done later once all the other dmtimer
>>> changes are done.
>>>
>> Which not possible to do unless you plan to hack generic
>> timer framework or waste additional timer hardware for
>> this.
>
> Well an extra timer hardware would only be needed on omap2&  3.
>
> But hey, if it makes sense to do or not to do is a different
> set of patches. At least we now have an option to play with it.
>
>>> For removing the old interface, I don't see any reason to
>>> select timer combinations on omap3 other than omap3_timer
>>> and omap3_beagle_timer.
>>>
>>> If there's need, any new valid sane combinations can be esily
>>> added, although I seriously doubt that we'll need more for
>>> omap3.
>>>
>> May be I am wrong but the point is about the merit of the
>> solution even if there are only couple of board files where
>> we use that interface.
>>
>> It much cleaner and simpler to say timerid=X, from board
>> file rather than creating a "struct sys_timer" instance
>> and putting that in timer code.
>
> Well the timerid=X adds yet another interface and more calls from
> board-*.c to the common code. And it requires more changes if beagle
> boards want to use the system clock as the source clock instead
> of the 32KiHZ source.
>
> Maybe let's call the omap3_beagle_timer omap3_secure_timer instead?
>
> That should solve your issue of having the board name show up
> in the generic code, no?
>
Sorry about picking up on names but that was not
my point. I agree with you on reducing interfaces so
I step back on this point.

>>>> At least I don't see other solution than using GPT1
>>>> for wakeup.
>>>
>>> Right, there's no other way to wake except gpt1 or wake-up
>>> enabled gpio lines. But we don't need to use gpt1 during
>>> runtime at all.
>>>
>> This is not entirely correct and I think this is the point
>> where we are not on same page. During runtime, gpt1 clock
>> event is not used for tick generation but it's kept
>> programmed because low power state switch via
>> get triggered any time and on any CPU.
>
> Well ideally we would not program it during runtime at all
> because it's slow to program. I don't think that can be
> currently done with the sys_timer.
>
>> This is the same problem as X86 APIC timer + HPET
>> switching and I worked with Thomas G and Russell
>> to get this working on ARM platforms using generic
>> timer framework. No hacking is needed in PM code
>> for this.
>
> Except we should improve things eventually where we don't
> need to program the slow external timer during runtime
> if we have local timers.
>
This is already the case now. On OMAP4 running system,
CPU use their own local timers and rq's. There is no
broadcasting. Whenever there is a need of it like
the situations where local-timers die (low power
states), timer system switches to broad-cast timer
which is wakeup capable. GPT1 in our case. This
is all managed by timer framework and works seamlessly.

> Hmm maybe I'm wrong and you got that working already?
>
I don't think you are wrong. All your points are
correct. The only missing point was the necessity
of GPT1 registered as clock-event to allow
dynamic switching between clock-events.

That's where I was saying that we are not
left with GPT1 for PM debug feature.

Regards
Santosh

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-01  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-28 22:21 [PATCH 00/10] omap init_early changes for irq and timer init Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 01/10] omap: Use separate init_irq functions to avoid cpu_is_omap tests early Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29  6:11   ` [PATCH 01/10] omap: Use separate init_irq functions to avoidcpu_is_omap " Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29  6:11     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-29 15:30     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 15:30       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 22:27       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 22:27         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:11   ` [PATCH 01/10] omap: Use separate init_irq functions to avoid cpu_is_omap " Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:11     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:14     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:14       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-05-17 11:28       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-05-17 11:28         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 02/10] omap: Set separate timer init functions to avoid cpu_is_omap tests Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 03/10] omap: Move dmtimer defines to dmtimer.h Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:41   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:41     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:44     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:44       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 04/10] omap: Make a subset of dmtimer functions into inline functions Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:51   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:51     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 17:58     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:58       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 18:01       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 18:01         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 18:02         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 18:02           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 05/10] omap2+: Use dmtimer macros for clockevent Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:16   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 17:16     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31 21:35   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 21:35     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 22:04     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31 22:04       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 06/10] omap2+: Remove gptimer_wakekup for now Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31 22:09   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 22:09     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-04-01 16:26     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-01 16:26       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 07/10] omap2+: Reserve clocksource and timesource and initialize dmtimer later Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 08/10] omap2+: Use dmtimer macros for clocksource Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 09/10] omap2+: Remove omap2_gp_clockevent_set_gptimer Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21 ` [PATCH 10/10] omap2+: Rename timer-gp.c into timer.c to combine timer init functions Tony Lindgren
2011-03-28 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-29 18:16 ` [PATCH 00/10] omap init_early changes for irq and timer init Kevin Hilman
2011-03-29 18:16   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-30  7:56 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-30  7:56   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-30 18:22   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 18:22     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31  8:16     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-31  8:16       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-03-31 17:32       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31 17:32         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-01  8:39         ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2011-04-01  8:39           ` Santosh Shilimkar

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