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From: Takao Indoh <indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: vgoyal@redhat.com
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, hbabu@us.ibm.com,
	ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com, martin.wilck@ts.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Reset PCIe devices to address DMA problem on kdump with iommu
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:22:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5060425A.8030303@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120914154817.GE6221@redhat.com>

(2012/09/15 0:48), Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 06:00:55PM +0900, Takao Indoh wrote:
>> (2012/09/11 23:43), Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:32:35PM +0900, Takao Indoh wrote:
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>> I'll post new patch which clears bus master bit and resets devices in
>>>> second kernel.
>>>>
>>>> As to the boot parameter to enable this function, you suggested using
>>>> reset_devices. I found that on a certain platform resetting devices
>>>> caused PCIe error due to a hardware bug. Therefore I think we need
>>>> new parameter apart from reset_devices to disable this function on
>>>> such a machine.
>>>
>>> Can you explain a bit more how the error happens. I still don't think
>>> that because of a bug in a platform somewhere we should be introducing
>>> a separate command line parameter and not reuse the exisiting one. Also
>>> you have not explained what's the bug and how a new parameter will
>>> avoid the bug.
>>
>> The bug I mentioned is that ACS Violation occurs at PCIe switch when
>> reading PCI configuration after device reset. I got information that
>> this violation is caused by PCIe switch bug. The machine becomes fatal
>> status by this error.
>>
>> The reason why I try to introduce new parameter is that I want to avoid
>> regression by this patch. Let's say this patch was included in kernel
>> and its reset function was enabled by reset_devices as you said. AFAIK
>> reset_devices is always needed for kdump, so it means that devices are
>> always reset at kdump boot time. It causes a regression that system
>> always becomes abnormal status when we run kdump on the machine which has
>> a bug I mentioned.
>>
>> To avoid this regression, I want to separate reset_devices from this
>> reset function. Or how about this?
>> - if user specify reset_devices, devices are reset by this patch, as you
>>    said.
>> - To avoid a regression I said, add new parameter like "pci=noreset".
>>    If this parameter is specified, the reset function I add is disabled
>>    and we can avoid regression.
>
> Can we identify that particular switch in code and not reset it in code.
> Introducing new paramenters to avoid bugs really feels odd.

Maybe we can do it using PCI quirk or DMI quirk as Konrad and Don said.
But I'm still thinking whether I can add boot parameter or something to
disable reset function so that we can use it as workaround untill we add
quirk when we find such a buggy hardware.

> Also, what was the conclusion to avoid double reset. I am assuming that
> we don't want to do bus level reset as well as driver level reset based
> on reset_devices.

I don't have a good idea to do it yet. Maybe we need to write bus:slot:func
information to somewhere when we reset device.

Thanks,
Takao Indoh


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From: Takao Indoh <indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: vgoyal@redhat.com
Cc: martin.wilck@ts.fujitsu.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hbabu@us.ibm.com, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	bhelgaas@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Reset PCIe devices to address DMA problem on kdump with iommu
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:22:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5060425A.8030303@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120914154817.GE6221@redhat.com>

(2012/09/15 0:48), Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 06:00:55PM +0900, Takao Indoh wrote:
>> (2012/09/11 23:43), Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:32:35PM +0900, Takao Indoh wrote:
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>> I'll post new patch which clears bus master bit and resets devices in
>>>> second kernel.
>>>>
>>>> As to the boot parameter to enable this function, you suggested using
>>>> reset_devices. I found that on a certain platform resetting devices
>>>> caused PCIe error due to a hardware bug. Therefore I think we need
>>>> new parameter apart from reset_devices to disable this function on
>>>> such a machine.
>>>
>>> Can you explain a bit more how the error happens. I still don't think
>>> that because of a bug in a platform somewhere we should be introducing
>>> a separate command line parameter and not reuse the exisiting one. Also
>>> you have not explained what's the bug and how a new parameter will
>>> avoid the bug.
>>
>> The bug I mentioned is that ACS Violation occurs at PCIe switch when
>> reading PCI configuration after device reset. I got information that
>> this violation is caused by PCIe switch bug. The machine becomes fatal
>> status by this error.
>>
>> The reason why I try to introduce new parameter is that I want to avoid
>> regression by this patch. Let's say this patch was included in kernel
>> and its reset function was enabled by reset_devices as you said. AFAIK
>> reset_devices is always needed for kdump, so it means that devices are
>> always reset at kdump boot time. It causes a regression that system
>> always becomes abnormal status when we run kdump on the machine which has
>> a bug I mentioned.
>>
>> To avoid this regression, I want to separate reset_devices from this
>> reset function. Or how about this?
>> - if user specify reset_devices, devices are reset by this patch, as you
>>    said.
>> - To avoid a regression I said, add new parameter like "pci=noreset".
>>    If this parameter is specified, the reset function I add is disabled
>>    and we can avoid regression.
>
> Can we identify that particular switch in code and not reset it in code.
> Introducing new paramenters to avoid bugs really feels odd.

Maybe we can do it using PCI quirk or DMI quirk as Konrad and Don said.
But I'm still thinking whether I can add boot parameter or something to
disable reset function so that we can use it as workaround untill we add
quirk when we find such a buggy hardware.

> Also, what was the conclusion to avoid double reset. I am assuming that
> we don't want to do bus level reset as well as driver level reset based
> on reset_devices.

I don't have a good idea to do it yet. Maybe we need to write bus:slot:func
information to somewhere when we reset device.

Thanks,
Takao Indoh


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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-03 11:24 [RFC][PATCH] Reset PCIe devices to address DMA problem on kdump with iommu Takao Indoh
2012-08-03 11:24 ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-03 11:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-03 11:46   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-06  4:30   ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-06  4:30     ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-06 20:39     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-06 20:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-08-07  9:02       ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-07  9:02         ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-05 11:09       ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-05 11:09         ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-10  2:34         ` Kaneshige, Kenji
2012-09-10  2:34           ` Kaneshige, Kenji
2012-09-10  6:35           ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-10  6:35             ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-11 11:52             ` Kaneshige, Kenji
2012-09-11 11:52               ` Kaneshige, Kenji
2012-09-10 14:36         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-10 14:36           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-11 10:32           ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-11 10:32             ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-11 14:43             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-11 14:43               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-12  9:00               ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-12  9:00                 ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-14 15:48                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 15:48                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-24 11:22                   ` Takao Indoh [this message]
2012-09-24 11:22                     ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-14 20:03             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-14 20:03               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-19  1:52               ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-19  1:52                 ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-21 17:57               ` Don Dutile
2012-09-21 17:57                 ` Don Dutile
2012-09-24 11:12                 ` Takao Indoh
2012-09-24 11:12                   ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-06  4:09 ` Don Dutile
2012-08-06  4:09   ` Don Dutile
2012-08-06  4:45   ` Takao Indoh
2012-08-06  4:45     ` Takao Indoh

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