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From: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	kgene.kim@samsung.com, rob.herring@calxeda.com,
	prabhakar.lad@ti.com, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree support for FIMC devices
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 01:05:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511592B4.5050406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51158873.3060508@wwwdotorg.org>

On 02/09/2013 12:21 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 02/08/2013 04:16 PM, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
>> On 02/07/2013 12:40 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> diff --git
>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/soc/samsung-fimc.txt
>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/soc/samsung-fimc.txt
>>>
>>>> +Samsung S5P/EXYNOS SoC Camera Subsystem (FIMC)
>>>> +----------------------------------------------
> ...
>>>> +For every fimc node a numbered alias should be present in the
>>>> aliases node.
>>>> +Aliases are of the form fimc<n>, where<n>   is an integer (0...N)
>>>> specifying
>>>> +the IP's instance index.
>>>
>>> Why? Isn't it up to the DT author whether they care if each fimc node is
>>> assigned a specific identification v.s. whether identification is
>>> assigned automatically?
>>
>> There are at least three different kinds of IPs that come in multiple
>> instances in an SoC. To activate data links between them each instance
>> needs to be clearly identified. There are also differences between
>> instances of same device. Hence it's important these aliases don't have
>> random values.
>>
>> Some more details about the SoC can be found at [1]. The aliases are
>> also already used in the Exynos5 GScaler bindings [2] in a similar way.
>
> Hmmm. I'd expect explicit DT properties to represent the
> instance-specific "configuration", or even different compatible values.
> Relying on the alias ID seems rather indirect; what if in e.g.
> Exynos6/... the mapping from instance/alias ID to feature set changes.
> With explicit DT properties, that'd just be a .dts change, whereas by
> requiring alias IDs now, you'd need a driver change to support this.

In the initial version of this patch series I used cell-index property,
but then Grant pointed out in some other mail thread it should be
avoided. Hence I used the node aliases.

Different compatible values might not work, when for example there
are 3 IPs out of 4 of one type and the fourth one of another type.
It wouldn't even by really different types, just quirks/little
differences between them, e.g. no data path routed to one of other IPs.

Then to connect e.g. MIPI-CSIS.0 to FIMC.2 at run time an index of the
MIPI-CSIS needs to be written to the FIMC.2 data input control register.
Even though MIPI-CSIS.N are same in terms of hardware structure they still
need to be distinguished as separate instances.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com (Sylwester Nawrocki)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 02/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree support for FIMC devices
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 01:05:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511592B4.5050406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51158873.3060508@wwwdotorg.org>

On 02/09/2013 12:21 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 02/08/2013 04:16 PM, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
>> On 02/07/2013 12:40 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> diff --git
>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/soc/samsung-fimc.txt
>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/soc/samsung-fimc.txt
>>>
>>>> +Samsung S5P/EXYNOS SoC Camera Subsystem (FIMC)
>>>> +----------------------------------------------
> ...
>>>> +For every fimc node a numbered alias should be present in the
>>>> aliases node.
>>>> +Aliases are of the form fimc<n>, where<n>   is an integer (0...N)
>>>> specifying
>>>> +the IP's instance index.
>>>
>>> Why? Isn't it up to the DT author whether they care if each fimc node is
>>> assigned a specific identification v.s. whether identification is
>>> assigned automatically?
>>
>> There are at least three different kinds of IPs that come in multiple
>> instances in an SoC. To activate data links between them each instance
>> needs to be clearly identified. There are also differences between
>> instances of same device. Hence it's important these aliases don't have
>> random values.
>>
>> Some more details about the SoC can be found at [1]. The aliases are
>> also already used in the Exynos5 GScaler bindings [2] in a similar way.
>
> Hmmm. I'd expect explicit DT properties to represent the
> instance-specific "configuration", or even different compatible values.
> Relying on the alias ID seems rather indirect; what if in e.g.
> Exynos6/... the mapping from instance/alias ID to feature set changes.
> With explicit DT properties, that'd just be a .dts change, whereas by
> requiring alias IDs now, you'd need a driver change to support this.

In the initial version of this patch series I used cell-index property,
but then Grant pointed out in some other mail thread it should be
avoided. Hence I used the node aliases.

Different compatible values might not work, when for example there
are 3 IPs out of 4 of one type and the fourth one of another type.
It wouldn't even by really different types, just quirks/little
differences between them, e.g. no data path routed to one of other IPs.

Then to connect e.g. MIPI-CSIS.0 to FIMC.2 at run time an index of the
MIPI-CSIS needs to be written to the FIMC.2 data input control register.
Even though MIPI-CSIS.N are same in terms of hardware structure they still
need to be distinguished as separate instances.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-09  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-01 19:09 [PATCH v4 00/10] Device tree support for Exynos SoC camera subsystem Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] s5p-csis: Add device tree support Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-06 23:36   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 23:36     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 22:29     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 22:29       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 23:27       ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 23:27         ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-09  0:31         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-09  0:31           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree support for FIMC devices Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-06 23:40   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 23:40     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 23:16     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 23:16       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 23:21       ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 23:21         ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-09  0:05         ` Sylwester Nawrocki [this message]
2013-02-09  0:05           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-09  0:32           ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-09  0:32             ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-09 22:29             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-09 22:29               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-09 22:52               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-09 22:52                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-11 21:50               ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-11 21:50                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-12 22:39                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-12 22:39                   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-13 20:42                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-13 20:42                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-14 23:03                     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-14 23:03                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree support for FIMC-LITE devices Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree support for the main media device driver Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] s5p-fimc: Add device tree based sensors registration Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-06 23:42   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 23:42     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 23:26     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 23:26       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] s5p-fimc: Use pinctrl API for camera ports configuration Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-06 23:44   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-06 23:44     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-08 23:30     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-08 23:30       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] ARM: dts: Add camera to node exynos4.dtsi Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] ARM: dts: Add ISP power domain node for Exynos4x12 Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] ARM: dts: Add FIMC and MIPI CSIS device nodes " Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] ARM: dts: Correct camera pinctrl nodes for Exynos4x12 SoCs Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-02-01 19:09   ` Sylwester Nawrocki

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