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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Josh Cartwright <joshc@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Sagar Dharia <sdharia@codeaurora.org>,
	Gilad Avidov <gavidov@codeaurora.org>,
	Michael Bohan <mbohan@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] spmi: add generic SPMI controller binding documentation
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:58:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5217DB0C.7000101@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e42576b69ef3d4e624fbfa2f32f6f79a931b55d6.1377202730.git.joshc@codeaurora.org>

On 08/22/2013 01:59 PM, Josh Cartwright wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Josh Cartwright <joshc@codeaurora.org>
> ---
> I'm introducing this as an RFC, because there are set of assumptions
> made in this binding spec, that currently hold true for the supported
> controller/addressing scheme for the Snapdragon 800 series, but don't
> necessarily hold true for SPMI in general.
> 
>   1. No use of Group Slave Identifiers (GSIDs)
>      (SPMI allows for a slave to belong to zero or more groups specified
>      by GSID, however this feature isn't currently implemented)
> 
>   2. No specification of Master Identifier (MID)
>      (A "system integrator" allocates to each master a 2-bit MID, this
>      currently isn't being specified, as it isn't needed by software for
>      the PMIC Arb; not sure if this is of use to other SPMI controllers)
> 
>   3. Single SPMI master per controller
> 
> Effectively, only a subset of possible SPMI configurations are specified
> in this document.
> 
> So, if it's considered necessary to provide a generic SPMI binding
> specification, is it acceptable to only define a subset at this time,
> expanding only when necessary, or shall I expand the definition to at
> least address 1 & 2, even though they are of no use in the current
> implementation?

It's best to define the whole thing from the start if possible. It's
easier to ensure the whole binding is consistent, and nothing has been
left out.

However, it's probably OK to define a subset binding initially and then
expand it later, as long as some thought it put into how it can be
expanded in a way that is 100% compatible: old DTs will still operate
with new kernels and perhaps even new DTs will still operate with old
kernels.

That said, if the thought is put in to ensure that's possible, it's
probably just as easy to define the whole binding from the start.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] spmi: add generic SPMI controller binding documentation
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:58:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5217DB0C.7000101@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e42576b69ef3d4e624fbfa2f32f6f79a931b55d6.1377202730.git.joshc@codeaurora.org>

On 08/22/2013 01:59 PM, Josh Cartwright wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Josh Cartwright <joshc@codeaurora.org>
> ---
> I'm introducing this as an RFC, because there are set of assumptions
> made in this binding spec, that currently hold true for the supported
> controller/addressing scheme for the Snapdragon 800 series, but don't
> necessarily hold true for SPMI in general.
> 
>   1. No use of Group Slave Identifiers (GSIDs)
>      (SPMI allows for a slave to belong to zero or more groups specified
>      by GSID, however this feature isn't currently implemented)
> 
>   2. No specification of Master Identifier (MID)
>      (A "system integrator" allocates to each master a 2-bit MID, this
>      currently isn't being specified, as it isn't needed by software for
>      the PMIC Arb; not sure if this is of use to other SPMI controllers)
> 
>   3. Single SPMI master per controller
> 
> Effectively, only a subset of possible SPMI configurations are specified
> in this document.
> 
> So, if it's considered necessary to provide a generic SPMI binding
> specification, is it acceptable to only define a subset at this time,
> expanding only when necessary, or shall I expand the definition to at
> least address 1 & 2, even though they are of no use in the current
> implementation?

It's best to define the whole thing from the start if possible. It's
easier to ensure the whole binding is consistent, and nothing has been
left out.

However, it's probably OK to define a subset binding initially and then
expand it later, as long as some thought it put into how it can be
expanded in a way that is 100% compatible: old DTs will still operate
with new kernels and perhaps even new DTs will still operate with old
kernels.

That said, if the thought is put in to ensure that's possible, it's
probably just as easy to define the whole binding from the start.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-22 20:18 [PATCH RFC v2 0/3] Add support for the System Power Management Interface (SPMI) Josh Cartwright
2013-08-22 20:18 ` Josh Cartwright
2012-12-10 19:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] of: Add empty for_each_available_child_of_node() macro definition Josh Cartwright
2013-08-22 22:57   ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-09 20:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] spmi: Add MSM PMIC Arbiter SPMI controller Josh Cartwright
2013-08-09 20:37   ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-09 20:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] spmi: document the PMIC arbiter SPMI bindings Josh Cartwright
2013-08-09 20:37   ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-23 21:55   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-23 21:55     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-09 20:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] spmi: Linux driver framework for SPMI Josh Cartwright
2013-08-09 20:37   ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-22 23:10   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-22 23:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-08-23 16:06     ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-23 16:06       ` Josh Cartwright
2013-09-09 15:52       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 15:52         ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 16:56         ` Josh Cartwright
2013-09-09 16:56           ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-22 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] spmi: add generic SPMI controller binding documentation Josh Cartwright
2013-08-22 19:59   ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-23 21:58   ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-08-23 21:58     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-27 17:01     ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-27 17:01       ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-27 21:55       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-27 21:55         ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-28 18:00         ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-28 18:00           ` Josh Cartwright
2013-08-28 18:32           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-28 18:32             ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-06  6:11         ` Bjorn Andersson
2013-10-06  6:11           ` Bjorn Andersson
     [not found]           ` <CAJAp7Oi-bPytsLtsppdanOi_p0Y5vfBriGB-B5by7w5Z7SGU-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 21:17             ` Josh Cartwright
2013-10-07 21:17               ` Josh Cartwright
2013-10-07 21:17               ` Josh Cartwright

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