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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	David Gstir <david@sigma-star.at>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexander Kaplan <alex@nextthing.co>
Subject: Re: Page migration issue with UBIFS
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E8320B.8040807@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315153744.GB28522@infradead.org>

Christoph,

Am 15.03.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 04:32:40PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> Or if ->page_mkwrite() was called, why the page is not dirty?
>>
>> BTW: UBIFS does not implement ->migratepage(), could this be a problem?
> 
> This might be the reason.  I can't reall make sense of
> buffer_migrate_page, but it seems to migrate buffer_head state to
> the new page.

Oh, yes. This makes a lot of sense.

> I'd love to know why CMA even tries to migrate pages that don't have a
> ->migratepage method, this seems incredibly dangerous to me.

CMA folks, can you please clarify? :-)

UBIFS cannot use buffer_migrate_page() as this function assumes a
buffer head and UBIFS works on top of an MTD.
This is most likely why ->migratepage() was never implemented in UBIFS.

Also the documentation is not clear, reads more like an not required optimization:
  migrate_page:  This is used to compact the physical memory usage.
        If the VM wants to relocate a page (maybe off a memory card
        that is signalling imminent failure) it will pass a new page
        and an old page to this function.  migrate_page should
        transfer any private data across and update any references
        that it has to the page.

...assuming s/migrate_page/migratepage.

Thanks,
//richard

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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	David Gstir <david@sigma-star.at>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexander Kaplan <alex@nextthing.co>
Subject: Re: Page migration issue with UBIFS
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E8320B.8040807@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315153744.GB28522@infradead.org>

Christoph,

Am 15.03.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 04:32:40PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> Or if ->page_mkwrite() was called, why the page is not dirty?
>>
>> BTW: UBIFS does not implement ->migratepage(), could this be a problem?
> 
> This might be the reason.  I can't reall make sense of
> buffer_migrate_page, but it seems to migrate buffer_head state to
> the new page.

Oh, yes. This makes a lot of sense.

> I'd love to know why CMA even tries to migrate pages that don't have a
> ->migratepage method, this seems incredibly dangerous to me.

CMA folks, can you please clarify? :-)

UBIFS cannot use buffer_migrate_page() as this function assumes a
buffer head and UBIFS works on top of an MTD.
This is most likely why ->migratepage() was never implemented in UBIFS.

Also the documentation is not clear, reads more like an not required optimization:
  migrate_page:  This is used to compact the physical memory usage.
        If the VM wants to relocate a page (maybe off a memory card
        that is signalling imminent failure) it will pass a new page
        and an old page to this function.  migrate_page should
        transfer any private data across and update any references
        that it has to the page.

...assuming s/migrate_page/migratepage.

Thanks,
//richard

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-15 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-15 14:16 Page migration issue with UBIFS Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 14:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 15:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-15 15:17   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-15 15:25   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 15:25     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 15:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 15:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 15:47     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-15 15:47       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-15 15:32   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 15:32     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 15:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 15:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 16:02       ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2016-03-15 16:02         ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 23:18       ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-15 23:18         ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-16 14:21         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-16 14:21           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-16 14:27           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-16 14:27             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-16 20:47             ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-16 20:47               ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-16 22:55               ` [PATCH] UBIFS: Implement ->migratepage() Richard Weinberger
2016-03-16 22:55                 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-16 23:12                 ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-16 23:12                   ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-17  4:39                 ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-17  4:39                   ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-17  8:09                   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-17  8:09                     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-17  9:57                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-17  9:57                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-25 22:53                   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-25 22:53                     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-17  7:11               ` Page migration issue with UBIFS Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-17  7:11                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-17  8:13                 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-17  8:13                   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-17 15:17                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-17 15:17                     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-21 23:00               ` Andrew Morton
2016-03-21 23:00                 ` Andrew Morton
2016-03-21 23:06                 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-21 23:06                   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-03-21 15:28           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-21 15:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-17 15:25 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-17 15:25   ` Boris Brezillon

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