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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: gleb@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
	yuhuang@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 07:05:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D1703E.4070504@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b800d72-9b28-237c-47a6-604d98a40315@linux.intel.com>

On 09/07/2016 08:36 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:>> The user will see two
VMAs in their output:
>>
>>     A: 0x1000->0x2000
>>     C: 0x1000->0x3000
>>
>> Will it confuse them to see the same virtual address range twice?  Or is
>> there something preventing that happening that I'm missing?
>>
> 
> You are right. Nothing can prevent it.
> 
> However, it is not easy to handle the case that the new VMA overlays
> with the old VMA
> already got by userspace. I think we have some choices:
> 1: One way is completely skipping the new VMA region as current kernel
> code does but i
>    do not think this is good as the later VMAs will be dropped.
> 
> 2: show the un-overlayed portion of new VMA. In your case, we just show
> the region
>    (0x2000 -> 0x3000), however, it can not work well if the VMA is a new
> created
>    region with different attributions.
> 
> 3: completely show the new VMA as this patch does.
> 
> Which one do you prefer?

I'd be willing to bet that #3 will break *somebody's* tooling.
Addresses going backwards is certainly screwy.  Imagine somebody using
smaps to search for address holes and doing hole_size=0x1000-0x2000.

#1 can lies about there being no mapping in place where there there may
have _always_ been a mapping and is very similar to the bug you were
originally fixing.  I think that throws it out.

#2 is our best bet, I think.  It's unfortunately also the most code.
It's also a bit of a fib because it'll show a mapping that never
actually existed, but I think this is OK.  I'm not sure what the
downside is that you're referring to, though.  Can you explain?

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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: gleb@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
	yuhuang@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 07:05:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D1703E.4070504@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b800d72-9b28-237c-47a6-604d98a40315@linux.intel.com>

On 09/07/2016 08:36 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:>> The user will see two
VMAs in their output:
>>
>>     A: 0x1000->0x2000
>>     C: 0x1000->0x3000
>>
>> Will it confuse them to see the same virtual address range twice?  Or is
>> there something preventing that happening that I'm missing?
>>
> 
> You are right. Nothing can prevent it.
> 
> However, it is not easy to handle the case that the new VMA overlays
> with the old VMA
> already got by userspace. I think we have some choices:
> 1: One way is completely skipping the new VMA region as current kernel
> code does but i
>    do not think this is good as the later VMAs will be dropped.
> 
> 2: show the un-overlayed portion of new VMA. In your case, we just show
> the region
>    (0x2000 -> 0x3000), however, it can not work well if the VMA is a new
> created
>    region with different attributions.
> 
> 3: completely show the new VMA as this patch does.
> 
> Which one do you prefer?

I'd be willing to bet that #3 will break *somebody's* tooling.
Addresses going backwards is certainly screwy.  Imagine somebody using
smaps to search for address holes and doing hole_size=0x1000-0x2000.

#1 can lies about there being no mapping in place where there there may
have _always_ been a mapping and is very similar to the bug you were
originally fixing.  I think that throws it out.

#2 is our best bet, I think.  It's unfortunately also the most code.
It's also a bit of a fib because it'll show a mapping that never
actually existed, but I think this is OK.  I'm not sure what the
downside is that you're referring to, though.  Can you explain?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-07  6:51 [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  6:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  7:05 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  7:05   ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07 16:34 ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-07 16:34   ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-08  3:36   ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-08  3:36     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-08 14:05     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-09-08 14:05       ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-09  8:19       ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-09  8:19         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-09 16:47         ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-09 16:47           ` Dave Hansen

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