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From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: gleb@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
	yuhuang@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:36:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b800d72-9b28-237c-47a6-604d98a40315@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57D04192.5070704@intel.com>



On 09/08/2016 12:34 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 09/06/2016 11:51 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> In order to fix this bug, we make 'file->version' indicate the next VMA
>> we want to handle
>
> This new approach makes it more likely that we'll skip a new VMA that
> gets inserted in between the read()s.  But, I guess that's OK.  We don't
> exactly claim to be giving super up-to-date data at the time of read().

Yes, I completely agree with you. :)

>
> With the old code, was there also a case that we could print out the
> same virtual address range more than once?  It seems like that could
> happen if we had a VMA split between two reads.

Yes.

>
> I think this introduces one oddity: if you have a VMA merge between two
> reads(), you might get the same virtual address range twice in your
> output.  This didn't happen before because we would have just skipped
> over the area that got merged.
>
> Take two example VMAs:
>
> 	vma-A: (0x1000 -> 0x2000)
> 	vma-B: (0x2000 -> 0x3000)
>
> read() #1: prints vma-A, sets m->version=0x2000
>
> Now, merge A/B to make C:
>
> 	vma-C: (0x1000 -> 0x3000)
>
> read() #2: find_vma(m->version=0x2000), returns vma-C, prints vma-C
>
> The user will see two VMAs in their output:
>
> 	A: 0x1000->0x2000
> 	C: 0x1000->0x3000
>
> Will it confuse them to see the same virtual address range twice?  Or is
> there something preventing that happening that I'm missing?
>

You are right. Nothing can prevent it.

However, it is not easy to handle the case that the new VMA overlays with the old VMA
already got by userspace. I think we have some choices:
1: One way is completely skipping the new VMA region as current kernel code does but i
    do not think this is good as the later VMAs will be dropped.

2: show the un-overlayed portion of new VMA. In your case, we just show the region
    (0x2000 -> 0x3000), however, it can not work well if the VMA is a new created
    region with different attributions.

3: completely show the new VMA as this patch does.

Which one do you prefer?

Thanks!

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From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com
Cc: gleb@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
	yuhuang@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:36:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b800d72-9b28-237c-47a6-604d98a40315@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57D04192.5070704@intel.com>



On 09/08/2016 12:34 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 09/06/2016 11:51 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> In order to fix this bug, we make 'file->version' indicate the next VMA
>> we want to handle
>
> This new approach makes it more likely that we'll skip a new VMA that
> gets inserted in between the read()s.  But, I guess that's OK.  We don't
> exactly claim to be giving super up-to-date data at the time of read().

Yes, I completely agree with you. :)

>
> With the old code, was there also a case that we could print out the
> same virtual address range more than once?  It seems like that could
> happen if we had a VMA split between two reads.

Yes.

>
> I think this introduces one oddity: if you have a VMA merge between two
> reads(), you might get the same virtual address range twice in your
> output.  This didn't happen before because we would have just skipped
> over the area that got merged.
>
> Take two example VMAs:
>
> 	vma-A: (0x1000 -> 0x2000)
> 	vma-B: (0x2000 -> 0x3000)
>
> read() #1: prints vma-A, sets m->version=0x2000
>
> Now, merge A/B to make C:
>
> 	vma-C: (0x1000 -> 0x3000)
>
> read() #2: find_vma(m->version=0x2000), returns vma-C, prints vma-C
>
> The user will see two VMAs in their output:
>
> 	A: 0x1000->0x2000
> 	C: 0x1000->0x3000
>
> Will it confuse them to see the same virtual address range twice?  Or is
> there something preventing that happening that I'm missing?
>

You are right. Nothing can prevent it.

However, it is not easy to handle the case that the new VMA overlays with the old VMA
already got by userspace. I think we have some choices:
1: One way is completely skipping the new VMA region as current kernel code does but i
    do not think this is good as the later VMAs will be dropped.

2: show the un-overlayed portion of new VMA. In your case, we just show the region
    (0x2000 -> 0x3000), however, it can not work well if the VMA is a new created
    region with different attributions.

3: completely show the new VMA as this patch does.

Which one do you prefer?

Thanks!

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-07  6:51 [PATCH] Fix region lost in /proc/self/smaps Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  6:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  7:05 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07  7:05   ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-07 16:34 ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-07 16:34   ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-08  3:36   ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2016-09-08  3:36     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-08 14:05     ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-08 14:05       ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-09  8:19       ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-09  8:19         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-09-09 16:47         ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-09 16:47           ` Dave Hansen

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